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05 January 2018 04:32 Post ID: #486899
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This is still my favourite day of the football year. I've not been homesick since I got here but I'd love to be at the game tomorrow. Next best thing is any kind of stream or radio link. If any of you fellas can help then please send me a PM with a link.

I'll be watching it with my LTFC supporting friend. Not sure how I'll be able to walk about the place if we get beat. Luton fetching almost 8,000 up which is as big an away support as I can remember at Newcastle. Mackems a couple of times fetched about the same. Chelsea in the promotion season filled the Leazes, Sheffield Wednesday and Leeds did the same. Can't remember many others bring anything like this amount. Brighton when they won promotion reckon they fetched 6,000 up. Did they fuck though. I was there, lucky if there was 4,000.

Any of you older than me lads remember anyone bringing up more than that?
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05 January 2018 07:19 Post ID: #486901 - in reply to #486899
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Aalreet OL? Well - hope you don't end up with egg foo yung on your face watching this one with your hatter mate!

One I remember was North End taking 5K+ in '87 (4th round). Mind- talk to any of them - "I was there" and they must have actually taken 35K (the gate was less than 30K!).

"You were there? I just remember you got beat" ha!

Exeter 1980 (5th round - groan); Mancs in 1990 (5th round) but you'd expect that and Swansea (when they were no marks) I think '95 (4th round) also took a few.
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05 January 2018 07:21 Post ID: #486902 - in reply to #486899
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https://www.lep.co.uk/sport/football/preston-north-end/memory-match-...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrj3iEZbVIU

Spot a greedy fat charlatan in the nob ender ranks!!



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05 January 2018 14:29 Post ID: #486903 - in reply to #486899
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Glad you're still enjoying it, OL. As for tomorrow, I reckon Rafa will be looking to play anybody who doesn't figure in his relegation battle squad. He's forced to see the FA cup as a dangerous squad-threatening inconvenience.

The amount of money plunged by the media companies into the Premier league means that finishing 17th and keeping the TV money is more important than a trophy whose traditions go back over a century. I'm afraid the buggers have killed the romance of the cup.

Like you, I have always loved the third round Saturday and I'll still be hoping we're in the hat until the whistle blows, despite our record since Fattie took over.
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05 January 2018 16:21 Post ID: #486909 - in reply to #486899
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Still love the FA cup just a shame the PL clubs dont, there is a solution give the winner a champions league slot there would be no weakened teams played then but wint happen.
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05 January 2018 17:05 Post ID: #486911 - in reply to #486899
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Me I don't think it would make any great difference. There are 15 or 16 teams in the league whose only aim is next years TV money for staying in the premiership. The chairman of those clubs would hate to qualify for the champions league and then compromise the year after unless they spend even more money on even more players. The premier league is so big now it has eclipsed every other competition. The romance of the cup is long gone sadly.
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06 January 2018 14:02 Post ID: #486962 - in reply to #486899
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Full strength team going out lads. Good to see in my view.
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06 January 2018 14:35 Post ID: #486966 - in reply to #486899
Woodman; Manquillo, Lascelles, Clark, Dummett; Merino, Shelvey; Ritchie, Perez, Murphy; Gayle

A strong side. Are we even allowed to do that under the Ashley dictatorship?
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06 January 2018 14:44 Post ID: #486967 - in reply to #486966
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 6/1/2018 14:35

Woodman; Manquillo, Lascelles, Clark, Dummett; Merino, Shelvey; Ritchie, Perez, Murphy; Gayle

A strong side. Are we even allowed to do that under the Ashley dictatorship?


Strictly against fattys policy that, trying to win a cup match, we’ll probably still fuck the up anyway.
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06 January 2018 15:12 Post ID: #486968 - in reply to #486899
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fancy that Benitez not towing the party line !!!
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06 January 2018 15:14 Post ID: #486969 - in reply to #486899
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It's as if he knew Ashley no longer matters.
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06 January 2018 15:41 Post ID: #486970 - in reply to #486899
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Fucking hell, we’re scoring goals, that’s goals, more than one.
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06 January 2018 15:58 Post ID: #486971 - in reply to #486899
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Lascelles off injured. That's why managers like to play a weakened team. If he's out for any length of time we will struggle like fuck if we don't find a replacement.
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06 January 2018 16:06 Post ID: #486972 - in reply to #486971
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I think Lascelles would be the player we would miss most right now. That has probably knackered Fattys plans for the January sales!
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06 January 2018 16:31 Post ID: #486973 - in reply to #486899
Hanging on here like. Still 3-1
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06 January 2018 17:16 Post ID: #486974 - in reply to #486899
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Well through to the next round but at a price Lascelles injured. Woodman not a first team keeper yet.
Shelvey reckless again.
Too many shots at goal miss, need to sharpen up the current lot or bring in replacements.
Still any progress in the Cup is welcomed.
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06 January 2018 17:47 Post ID: #486975 - in reply to #486899
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Great to see Rafa take the cup seriously with his team selection. Woodman can only learn by gaining experience. He now has his senior debut out of the way and his career starting. Good luck to the lad.

Thanks to Rafa for giving us a chance. By way of reminder, in the Ashley years, out history is as follows:
Allardyce
2008 sacked shortly after draw against Stoke in 3rd round
Keegan
2008 won 3rd round replay v Stoke, lost away at Arsenal 4th round
Kinnear
2009 lost 3rd round replay at home to Hull
Hughton
2010 lost 4th round v West Brom after beating Plymouth in 3rd round replay
Pardew:
2011 lost 3rd round v Stevenage
2012 lost v Brighton 4th round after beating Blackburn in 3rd with those two magical goals from be Arfa and Jonas, two players pushed out by the hierarchy
2013 lost v Brighton, 3rd round
2014 lost v Cardiff at home, 3rd round
2015 lost v Leicester, 3rd round
2016 lost 3rd round v Watford
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2017 Lost 4th round round v Oxford 3-1 after winning 3rd round replay v Birmingham at home
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06 January 2018 18:30 Post ID: #486976 - in reply to #486899
Lascelles withdrawal was precautionary and he' s supposed to be ok. Just a little groin strain.
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07 January 2018 04:20 Post ID: #486987 - in reply to #486899
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Thanks fellas.

Re FA Cup memories. I remember that Exeter tie Finn. We were in the Leazes for it. I don't remember why. Maybe the Gallowgate was full? I was a programme seller at that time so I might even have been in on a freebie as was the custom at the time. Can't remember that many Exeter being there. Where would they have been at that time? I recall that away fans used to get various of the 'old man's paddocks' in the West Stand. Used to be the one nearest the Gallowgate, but when they knocked the Leazes down they shifted it to the other end. As a rule though away fans were housed in the East Stand paddock nearest to the Gallowgate, except when they had a good few up and then they shifted to the West Stand. Absolutely love thinking back to these games. You'd likely have been there for our first home game back in Division 2. West Ham on a Monday night. The previous Saturday we'd been away at Millwall. We got humped by West Ham 3-0. They put their fans in the East Stand next to the Gallowgate, which by now was our 'end'. Predictable results.
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07 January 2018 09:06 Post ID: #486990 - in reply to #486899
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Looking back OL maybe Exeter didn't take as many as I had thought but merely a reasonable amount given the size of their club; usual attendance; distance involved as well as the violence associated with going anywhere at the time. They were housed in a section of seats and paddocks (now benched following the petrol bomb the preceding season) in the East Stand. PNE - also in the East Stand - definitely took 5.5K
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07 January 2018 09:26 Post ID: #486991 - in reply to #486899
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A side note from that Exeter tie, having a bar job at the time. My bar manager's car was nicked on the night before the replay. On the Thursday, he got a call from the police saying that his car had been found not far from St James' Park. It took him a few minutes to twig why the police officer on the phone had a West country accent.
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07 January 2018 10:47 Post ID: #486992 - in reply to #486899
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What's the biggest away following you've been in for Newcastle, and the lowest.

FA Cup finals etc not counted.

My biggest would probably be Huddersfield or maybe Sheffield Wednesday same season. 17,000 officially at Hillsborough. Might have been more again at Huddersfield. Also the first 0-5 Old Trafford game in 84 season was a big turnout.

I recall being with about 700 or so at Bolton once. Also about the same number at Orient when West Ham turned up to attack us. I was on the supporters club bus for that. Some of the lads who went on the train had a bad time of it. We were lucky. One of the stewards got punched by a skinhead. Apart from that it was fairly safe.
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07 January 2018 11:28 Post ID: #486993 - in reply to #486899
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My memory is so shite I can neve remember the finer details of away trips but I was at the Huddersfield game where Ive never seen away fans totally take over a city before.....I used to feel massive pride at taking over an away pub but Huddersfield was on a different scale

Although I remember not being able to get a drink in the town centre and groups of us jumping on busses (for free) to go a bit furher a field to find a pub that let us in.....not difficult as we were in just about every pub we saw outside the town centre

Also got an over riding memory of travelling back from Hillsborough one year as part of an 80 coach convoy.....I cant remember how far out of Sheffield the police escort stayed with us but you could tell that the cars who had to stop to let us through had never seen anything like it

On a slightly different note...Ill never forget the 'away' trip Roker Park for the Sunderland v Gillingham game....I genuinely was there and it is without doubt one of the best games I have ever been to while 'representing' Newcastle United

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07 January 2018 12:36 Post ID: #486996 - in reply to #486899
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Top marks Mac for your "away" trip to roker! Hero! Hero! Haha

Think I must have been at that hillsborough game with you (went to a few there) but distinctly remember a massive convoy 1 year
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07 January 2018 13:09 Post ID: #486997 - in reply to #486899
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Surreal expierence Fin mate....

It was one of them 'good ideas at the time' things and we didnt have a clue what to do when we got
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We went upto the Gillingham turnstile hoping to pay and get in no questions asked but we were stopped by a copper as we approached to be asked if we were Gillingham or Newcastle.....obviously thought it was game over and not having a clue what a Gillingham accent sounded lke we admitted to being Newcastle. Expecting to be told to fuck off away from the ground we couldnt believe it when the copper pointed towards the turnstile next to the one we were at

I know theres been mixed reports as to how many of us were there but I reckon there was easily a thousand

As you can imagine - the mackems hostility was cranked up a good few notches and it was funny as fuck

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07 January 2018 13:40 Post ID: #486998 - in reply to #486899
Im the same in regards to away games as it was such a long time ago but the big ones you never forget. Most memorable for me was Spurs away in the cup in the later 80's when the official figures were probably doubled unofficially. Maybe anything between 10,000 and 15,000 hard to say but it was a hillsborough waiting to happen I know that and almost was.
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07 January 2018 14:55 Post ID: #486999 - in reply to #486899
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Spurs away in the cup in the 80’s was the biggest away turnout for me, how no one was killed that day i will never know. My best away game was Liverpool away in the cup when Keegan was playing it was a Friday night televised game and we literally took over Liverpool and outsang the kop even though we got humped 4-0. The smallest attendance was Shrewsbury at home on a wet Wednesday night think there was less than 7k in the ground.
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07 January 2018 15:19 Post ID: #487000 - in reply to #486899
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I went to that Liverpool game, as said earlier a shed load of fans......service stations were a laugh, but as a young paperboy i was shagged in the morning.
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07 January 2018 15:22 Post ID: #487001 - in reply to #486997
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McCreery - 7/1/2018 13:09

Surreal expierence Fin mate....

It was one of them 'good ideas at the time' things but we didnt have a clue what to do when we got
there

We went upto the Gillingham turestile hoping to pay and get in no questions asked but we were stopped by a copper as we approached to be asked if we were Gillingham or Newcastle.....obviously thought it was game over and not having a clue what a Gillingham accent sounded lke we admitted to being Newcastle. Expecting to be told to fuck off away from the ground we couldnt believe it when the copper pointed towards the turnstile next to the one we were at

I know theres been mixed reports as to how many of us were there but I reckon there was easily a thousand

As you can imagine - the mackems hostility was cranked up a good few notches and it was funny as fuck


Haha! Class.

Nearest I got to that kind of hostility was missing out on a ticket to the dark place in '91/'92 so got one in the clock stand paddock - side nearest our lot. Hands in pockets when Davenport scored and "Hey. Have to hand it to him - he took it well" in a fake whey's keys accent at O'Brien's chipped leveller. Celebrated like mad when got back to the car. I think being in the roker end the next season was probs biggest away following I was in as well as the '90 play off 1st leg.
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07 January 2018 17:30 Post ID: #487009 - in reply to #486899
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Away trips for FA cup games became the norm for me in the 70's. It wasn't always all ticket in those days and it was normally a case of turn up and pay at the gate. We played Bolton one year at Elland road after two draws and won 1-0. That was a huge support down from Newcastle but I missed the first twenty minutes of the game because of the queue to get in and then we got chased by Leeds yobs after the game going back to the car. What the game had to do with them f*ck knows but they were looking to have a go at supporters who were separate from the main crowd in small groups.
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07 January 2018 17:53 Post ID: #487012 - in reply to #486899
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Don't you just love a cup upset when it's not us?

How many people remember that Gary Brazil played for us, 3 goals in 7 league starts, 1 goal in one League Cup start and 18 sub appearances in total.

Well done against Arsenal.
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07 January 2018 18:15 Post ID: #487014 - in reply to #486899
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i remebered the name but had to look up to see if it was the same guy
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07 January 2018 19:15 Post ID: #487015 - in reply to #486899
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It's one of those things that got me thinking. One of my female cousins married a guy who played football at a decent level but went into management at non league level. Although they divorced years ago, I finally managed to congratulate him 20 years later at my uncle's funeral on being one of the few, if not the first, to get 2 non league clubs through to the 2nd round of the FA Cup, Marlow and Slough.

Strangely enough, I think he can successfully claimed to have managed Brazil (even if it was at Slough).
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07 January 2018 20:35 Post ID: #487016 - in reply to #486999
Bruce68 - 7/1/2018 14:55

Spurs away in the cup in the 80’s was the biggest away turnout for me, how no one was killed that day i will never know. My best away game was Liverpool away in the cup when Keegan was playing it was a Friday night televised game and we literally took over Liverpool and outsang the kop even though we got humped 4-0. The smallest attendance was Shrewsbury at home on a wet Wednesday night think there was less than 7k in the ground.


Was there and to this day that is still the loudest thunder ive heard in my life. It was made worse by the fact that the old West stand was demolished and we had all them wooden boards there. To be fair it was only The Simod Cup although it was the start of Andy Thomas going on that good scoring run.

We went out the next round to Everton 5-2 but Thomas got them both.
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07 January 2018 20:46 Post ID: #487018 - in reply to #486899
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The Shrewsbury game i am on about was a league home game on a Wednesday night we won 2-0 and i think Waddle made his debut as a sub
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07 January 2018 21:25 Post ID: #487021 - in reply to #486899
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I remember that game Bruce. You could tell straight away the lad had something about him. Imagine we had Waddle, Beardsley and Gascoigne in the 80's, all local lads that cost a the grand total of £125k and who went onto play in a World Cup. What's happened to all of the local talent because I can't think of one Geordie anywhere near that level nowadays.
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07 January 2018 21:32 Post ID: #487022 - in reply to #486899
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Aye Vin its a shame because the region used to be full of talent. You’re right about Waddle he only played 20 minutes but skinned the defender about five times, i think he was working in a sausage factory the week before he signed on temporary terms with NUFC and look what he went onto achieve.
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07 January 2018 22:00 Post ID: #487025 - in reply to #486899
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Vin, Bruce, years ago Sunday morning football was thriving for young lads. You struggled for to find a vacant pitch to play on and there was 3 and 4 divisions in your local league. Now it seems lads either can't be bothered or have other interests. Even earlier when you were at school it was the highlight of the week playing for your school team on a Saturday morning. It doesn't seem to happen any more, which is a shame.
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07 January 2018 22:16 Post ID: #487026 - in reply to #486899
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All the kids are playing football on their computers.
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07 January 2018 22:46 Post ID: #487027 - in reply to #486899
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Aye Mac as a youngster i was playing for four teams, the school and boys club during the week and two local league teams at weekends and would often hang around after the game to see if any other teams were short. When not playing proper games we played in the street, you dont see twenty kids kicking a ball in the street or on the green these days they are all playing in the champions league on fifa18. Im glad there werent computer games in my day.
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