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03 December 2017 10:08 Post ID: #485567 - in reply to #485471
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I think we can all agree that the gulf in class was obvious against Man U,Spurs and Chelsea.

Can anyone hand on heart state this was the case against

West Brom,Watford,Bournemouth.Brighton,Burnley,Stoke ,Palace,Southampton,Swansea and Huddersfield ?
I have not caught up with the Liverpool match yet,was there a gulf in class ?

I know they got a point.

Rafa is piss poor for hiding behind the players by slagging them off on national TV

Especially when he arguably cost the club ELEVEN possible points through negative tactics.

Just look at the list above.

West Brom for example as the most recent and freshest in the mind, were CLEARLY two points lost because of HIS tactics,not a gulf in class.

He's doing a Pardew but getting away with it at the moment because a substantial but diminishing amount of our support are/were starstruck by his past successes and ultimately yet again,outmanoeuvred by Ashley.







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03 December 2017 10:25 Post ID: #485568 - in reply to #485471
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Fair point. Rafa's not beyond criticism and playing Diame is inexcusable. It's aright trying to make a point against Chelsea by playing shit players but not against West Brom. We really should be on 25/26 points by now as we've played all the poor teams. I can't see more than 1/2 points from Leicester and Everton and you can forget Arsenal. Same old shit different manager. Welcome to life as a toon fan.
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03 December 2017 11:29 Post ID: #485569 - in reply to #485471
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Our current form mirrors Swansea and look where they are.
Ritchie a disaster as a wingback and I think he needs a rest. Runs around a lot but predictable.
Diame should not be anywhere the team and Perez is disappointing.
Laselles obviously missed, Lejeune becoming disappointing and both full back positions need attention.
Up front not a great threat and we are picking or more often missing scraps.
I don't know if Rafa would be as negative with a better squad but he certainly is with this lot. Does not use subs well, normally on too late and you can question the choice.
Real struggle upcoming, Leicester improving and so are Everton whereas we are going in the opposite direction.
The takeover is taking an age and you wonder if it will happen, although Ashley will not want another relegation and a fall in the purchase price. He would be better taking what he can get now.
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03 December 2017 12:30 Post ID: #485570 - in reply to #485567
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PieMag - 3/12/2017 10:08

I think we can all agree that the gulf in class was obvious against Man U,Spurs and Chelsea.

Can anyone hand on heart state this was the case against

West Brom,Watford,Bournemouth.Brighton,Burnley,Stoke ,Palace,Southampton,Swansea and Huddersfield ?
I have not caught up with the Liverpool match yet,was there a gulf in class ?

I know they got a point.

Rafa is piss poor for hiding behind the players by slagging them off on national TV

Especially when he arguably cost the club ELEVEN possible points through negative tactics.

Just look at the list above.

West Brom for example as the most recent and freshest in the mind, were CLEARLY two points lost because of HIS tactics,not a gulf in class.

He's doing a Pardew but getting away with it at the moment because a substantial but diminishing amount of our support are/were starstruck by his past successes and ultimately yet again,outmanoeuvred by Ashley.










There was a definite gulf in class against Man Utd and Chelsea, they battered us, as they have more often than not since Jesus was a lad.

I don't think the gulf in class showed on the day against Spurs until Shelvey acted the twat, we were in the game and they didn't take the lead until after the hour mark, nearly fifteen minutes after having an extra man. Although the table at the end of the season will demonstrate there is a gulf in class.

All the other games were close, some we won, some some lost, some we drew. Apart from the Watford game, they battered us. But then you omitted the West Ham game where we battered them.

It's a pity the one game you haven't caught up with was the one where we got a point against one of the "big 6", two months ago.

How convenient

So there you have it, newly promoted team with minimal investment in topsy turvy season shocker. Not sure why anyone would have expected anything else.

As for the diminishing support for the manager, not sure where you get that from. A couple of dissenting voices on a messageboard used by about 20 people doesn't really count. Yes, we can have our frustrations with team selection, subs, tactics etc etc, but hasn't that always been the case? At every club? With every? manager?

Diminishing support, don't be daft

Edited by Neppos 3/12/2017 12:31
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03 December 2017 12:52 Post ID: #485572 - in reply to #485568
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vin1892 - 3/12/2017 10:25

We really should be on 25/26 points by now as we've played all the poor teams.



Spot on.

Worse still those poorer teams were definitely not better than us.

As the manager Benitez is to blame,yet he chooses to blame the players.

I don't subscribe to the idea he is trying to plant a subliminal message into ashley's hard head thereby forcing him to spend in the next transfer window.

That would make no sense whatsoever,not least for his career.



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03 December 2017 12:53 Post ID: #485573 - in reply to #485471
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You do talk nonsense Neppos.

No offence like
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03 December 2017 13:13 Post ID: #485574 - in reply to #485471
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Pie, you don't honestly think I could ever be offended by a boycotter from Plymouth, do ya?
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03 December 2017 13:21 Post ID: #485575 - in reply to #485471
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Ich bin von Newcastle
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03 December 2017 16:10 Post ID: #485576 - in reply to #485570
Neppos - 3/12/2017 12:30

PieMag - 3/12/2017 10:08

I think we can all agree that the gulf in class was obvious against Man U,Spurs and Chelsea.

Can anyone hand on heart state this was the case against

West Brom,Watford,Bournemouth.Brighton,Burnley,Stoke ,Palace,Southampton,Swansea and Huddersfield ?
I have not caught up with the Liverpool match yet,was there a gulf in class ?

I know they got a point.

Rafa is piss poor for hiding behind the players by slagging them off on national TV

Especially when he arguably cost the club ELEVEN possible points through negative tactics.

Just look at the list above.

West Brom for example as the most recent and freshest in the mind, were CLEARLY two points lost because of HIS tactics,not a gulf in class.

He's doing a Pardew but getting away with it at the moment because a substantial but diminishing amount of our support are/were starstruck by his past successes and ultimately yet again,outmanoeuvred by Ashley.










There was a definite gulf in class against Man Utd and Chelsea, they battered us, as they have more often than not since Jesus was a lad.

I don't think the gulf in class showed on the day against Spurs until Shelvey acted the twat, we were in the game and they didn't take the lead until after the hour mark, nearly fifteen minutes after having an extra man. Although the table at the end of the season will demonstrate there is a gulf in class.

All the other games were close, some we won, some some lost, some we drew. Apart from the Watford game, they battered us. But then you omitted the West Ham game where we battered them.

It's a pity the one game you haven't caught up with was the one where we got a point against one of the "big 6", two months ago.

How convenient

So there you have it, newly promoted team with minimal investment in topsy turvy season shocker. Not sure why anyone would have expected anything else.

As for the diminishing support for the manager, not sure where you get that from. A couple of dissenting voices on a messageboard used by about 20 people doesn't really count. Yes, we can have our frustrations with team selection, subs, tactics etc etc, but hasn't that always been the case? At every club? With every? manager?

Diminishing support, don't be daft :17:


I actually think this is spot on in my opinion for what that's worth.
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03 December 2017 20:57 Post ID: #485579 - in reply to #485471
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get lost man
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04 December 2017 01:21 Post ID: #485582 - in reply to #485576
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 3/12/2017 16:10

Neppos - 3/12/2017 12:30

PieMag - 3/12/2017 10:08

I think we can all agree that the gulf in class was obvious against Man U,Spurs and Chelsea.

Can anyone hand on heart state this was the case against

West Brom,Watford,Bournemouth.Brighton,Burnley,Stoke ,Palace,Southampton,Swansea and Huddersfield ?
I have not caught up with the Liverpool match yet,was there a gulf in class ?

I know they got a point.

Rafa is piss poor for hiding behind the players by slagging them off on national TV

Especially when he arguably cost the club ELEVEN possible points through negative tactics.

Just look at the list above.

West Brom for example as the most recent and freshest in the mind, were CLEARLY two points lost because of HIS tactics,not a gulf in class.

He's doing a Pardew but getting away with it at the moment because a substantial but diminishing amount of our support are/were starstruck by his past successes and ultimately yet again,outmanoeuvred by Ashley.










There was a definite gulf in class against Man Utd and Chelsea, they battered us, as they have more often than not since Jesus was a lad.

I don't think the gulf in class showed on the day against Spurs until Shelvey acted the twat, we were in the game and they didn't take the lead until after the hour mark, nearly fifteen minutes after having an extra man. Although the table at the end of the season will demonstrate there is a gulf in class.

All the other games were close, some we won, some some lost, some we drew. Apart from the Watford game, they battered us. But then you omitted the West Ham game where we battered them.

It's a pity the one game you haven't caught up with was the one where we got a point against one of the "big 6", two months ago.

How convenient

So there you have it, newly promoted team with minimal investment in topsy turvy season shocker. Not sure why anyone would have expected anything else.

As for the diminishing support for the manager, not sure where you get that from. A couple of dissenting voices on a messageboard used by about 20 people doesn't really count. Yes, we can have our frustrations with team selection, subs, tactics etc etc, but hasn't that always been the case? At every club? With every? manager?

Diminishing support, don't be daft :17:


I actually think this is spot on in my opinion for what that's worth. :17:



Second best post in the thread, and no mistake
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