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03 January 2018 21:58 Post ID: #486860 - in reply to #483771
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Tell me about it Mac.

I remember going on holiday to the Baltic when my son and I put some things up on a forum about a Leningrad player signing for us. When we got back, we saw that the rumour went all over the place.
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03 January 2018 22:03 Post ID: #486861 - in reply to #486859
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Mcnamee67 - 3/1/2018 21:50

You could add that they read the various 'message boards' for any info which they may think credible and use it. It has been noticed over the years and it's more than coincidence.


When I thought I recognised the bloke who punched the horse after the derby loss (again), I had a bloke on from the mirror, asking questions, they do read the threads...
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03 January 2018 22:09 Post ID: #486862 - in reply to #486861
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daftladguy - 3/1/2018 22:03
When I thought I recognised the bloke who punched the horse after the derby loss (again), I had a bloke on from the mirror, asking questions, they do read the threads...

That was another one I had. Radio 5 had my number from something I did for them and whilst I was sitting in a queue to get into Barnsley hospital, I put up a post, I think it was on here, about Joey Barton. They called me to go on air just as I reached the car park barrier and asked if we could go live in 2 minutes for a comment.
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04 January 2018 17:01 Post ID: #486885 - in reply to #483771
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04 January 2018 17:09 Post ID: #486888 - in reply to #486885
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PieMag - 4/1/2018 17:01

https://cominghomenewcastle.sbnation.com/2018/1/4/16849730/takeover-...

Again could be something or nothing, or just buying time with the press acting as puppets.

The later history would say....
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04 January 2018 17:11 Post ID: #486889 - in reply to #483771
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*Puts straw back from where it was clutched.
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04 January 2018 19:45 Post ID: #486894 - in reply to #483771
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Another pet hate, Rafa has to sell before he buys.

Hold on, we have a squad of 25. Players like Coback can fester and pick up the remainder of his contract and get a loyalty bonus on top. Each player who does not move cots maybe £3m and takes up wages from any inbound. If we loan them out, we can afford a better player on loan.

The cash from a Mitro sale plus £3m is worth not a lot. Mitro plus £6m gives us a slight advantage.
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04 January 2018 20:25 Post ID: #486895 - in reply to #483771
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Didnt he say in his sky interview that all his wealth was tied up in sports direct shares.If so where is the money coming from to buy shares back.Surely Mike wasnt telling the fans lies in his interview with Craigy.He wouldnt take the piss like that would he?
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04 January 2018 21:51 Post ID: #486896 - in reply to #483771
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He sells when SD price is high, buys back when it is low. That's how he raised £800m for his daughter's boyfriend to set up a property company.

In fact it was a piece of misinformation to say ALL his wealth is tied up in SD.
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05 January 2018 01:45 Post ID: #486898 - in reply to #483771
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Tubbies a chancer,with dirty fingernails.He's sticking.
Maybe February a few attendees could shout the odds in the ground or not turn up.
If the Spaniard walks then there's always some fucker who'll manage us.gary monk maybe.
Meanwhile we all sit & wait for the despot to come back from his holiday.
Unbelievable.

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05 January 2018 05:30 Post ID: #486900 - in reply to #483771
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There comes a time whether you go or not,this board is divided but the present fucker needs chasing out of town,the apathy is unacceptable, bit like the tories,getting away with murder.

Edited by Rytoon 5/1/2018 05:52
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05 January 2018 17:08 Post ID: #486912 - in reply to #483771
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Sure I read somewhere (maybe here) that Jan 6th was the big day and the lovely Amanda had booked some kind of press conference in advance. Lets hope so.
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05 January 2018 18:11 Post ID: #486916 - in reply to #483771
Heard rumours and seen various bits of tittle tattle online that the 6th is the key date and that interview slots with the various media sources have been booked. Also wouldn't that be a month from the curry house photos ? So theoretically it could have been done then it's month to push it through and could well be before the Fa already. Then you have things like Rafa saying a few weeks ago about transfers being done by the 20th (exactly two weeks after the 6th), the whole Cantervale stuff this week and Ashley buying back Sports Direct shares. A few too many coincidences.

As ever with this club it's the hope that kills you .
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05 January 2018 18:17 Post ID: #486917 - in reply to #486900
Rytoon - 5/1/2018 05:30

There comes a time whether you go or not,this board is divided but the present fucker needs chasing out of town,the apathy is unacceptable, bit like the tories,getting away with murder.


Agreed.

One thing I still cant believe is that Ashley and co have been found guilty in a court of law of repeatedly and intentionally misleading the fans. It's coming up to nearly a decade of that one with many instances of it happening still but here we are still being played remnants of that tune without as much as a table turned over.

I have no doubts that there are many plants in the media as well as social media with many words of the tune being 'dont shoot the messenger but.....' so im just wondering when or if the penny will finally drop for the masses?

We're one of the richest football clubs in the world who are run with a budget not fit for division 4 and told by every outlet that Ashley has got to that we have no right to expect anything, not even crumbs.

Until the money dries up, Ashley will never leave and there's far too many out there allowing that to happen, not just the fans.
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05 January 2018 18:23 Post ID: #486918 - in reply to #486917
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 5/1/2018 18:17

Rytoon - 5/1/2018 05:30

There comes a time whether you go or not,this board is divided but the present fucker needs chasing out of town,the apathy is unacceptable, bit like the tories,getting away with murder.


Agreed.

One thing I still cant believe is that Ashley and co have been found guilty in a court of law of repeatedly and intentionally misleading the fans. It's coming up to nearly a decade of that one with many instances of it happening still but here we are still being played remnants of that tune without as much as a table turned over.

I have no doubts that there are many plants in the media as well as social media with many words of the tune being 'dont shoot the messenger but.....' so im just wondering when or if the penny will finally drop for the masses?

We're one of the richest football clubs in the world who are run with a budget not fit for division 4 and told by every outlet that Ashley has got to that we have no right to expect anything, not even crumbs.

Until the money dries up, Ashley will never leave and there's far too many out there allowing that to happen, not just the fans.


Who are these posts directed at ?
Those that still go ?
Those that have attended in the last 10 years ?
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05 January 2018 18:26 Post ID: #486920 - in reply to #486918
Gillyboat - 5/1/2018 18:23

Toon_NoMatterWot - 5/1/2018 18:17

Rytoon - 5/1/2018 05:30

There comes a time whether you go or not,this board is divided but the present fucker needs chasing out of town,the apathy is unacceptable, bit like the tories,getting away with murder.


Agreed.

One thing I still cant believe is that Ashley and co have been found guilty in a court of law of repeatedly and intentionally misleading the fans. It's coming up to nearly a decade of that one with many instances of it happening still but here we are still being played remnants of that tune without as much as a table turned over.

I have no doubts that there are many plants in the media as well as social media with many words of the tune being 'dont shoot the messenger but.....' so im just wondering when or if the penny will finally drop for the masses?

We're one of the richest football clubs in the world who are run with a budget not fit for division 4 and told by every outlet that Ashley has got to that we have no right to expect anything, not even crumbs.

Until the money dries up, Ashley will never leave and there's far too many out there allowing that to happen, not just the fans.


Who are these posts directed at ?
Those that still go ?
Those that have attended in the last 10 years ?


Not at the fans. Those who spread gossip as truth and those who will be fed information from the PR team.
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05 January 2018 18:27 Post ID: #486921 - in reply to #483771
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Is this an admission that rafa is part of the problem then toony ?

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05 January 2018 18:33 Post ID: #486922 - in reply to #486921
PieMag - 5/1/2018 18:27

Is this an admission that rafa is part of the problem then toony ?



No because I think he's been the most honest bloke we've had since Keegan/Shearer. Not one manager has came close since to telling us how things are in relation to being lied to or in the dark. I think Rafa likes politics, i'll give you that but if he goes, it'll collapse like a deck of cards.
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05 January 2018 18:39 Post ID: #486924 - in reply to #486922
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 5/1/2018 18:33

PieMag - 5/1/2018 18:27

Is this an admission that rafa is part of the problem then toony ?



No because I think he's been the most honest bloke we've had since Keegan/Shearer. Not one manager has came close since to telling us how things are in relation to being lied to or in the dark. I think Rafa likes politics, i'll give you that but if he goes, it'll collapse like a deck of cards.


Agree with this. I thought Rafa looked and sounded pissed off during his press conference.
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05 January 2018 18:41 Post ID: #486925 - in reply to #486922
Toon_NoMatterWot - 5/1/2018 18:33

PieMag - 5/1/2018 18:27

Is this an admission that rafa is part of the problem then toony ?



No because I think he's been the most honest bloke we've had since Keegan/Shearer. Not one manager has came close since to telling us how things are in relation to being lied to or in the dark. I think Rafa likes politics, i'll give you that but if he goes, it'll collapse like a deck of cards.


I disagree , if Rafa goes there'll be a stink but Ashley can and will ride it out. He's done it so many times before. It'll be a few weeks of noise and there may well be a fan forum or two and a mooted boycott but ultimately the vast majority of people don't want to stop going. It's a fundamental part of their weekend and perhaps their identity.
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05 January 2018 18:50 Post ID: #486928 - in reply to #483771
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I tend to agree KK. We all went mental over the Keegan thing but guess what? The ground still sells out every week. If Rafa goes he will find another sucker and of course the sheep will continue to "support the team not........" etc ad nauseum.

Ashley can continue to bleed our club dry for as long as he wants and there is fxck all we can do about it. We just need to hope and pray someone will make him an offer he can't refuse. Which looks unlikely right now imho.
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05 January 2018 19:06 Post ID: #486930 - in reply to #483771
The only 'offer' Ashley wont refuse is if or when the prize money/TV cash dries up and he has an advertising billboard that is worthless.
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05 January 2018 19:15 Post ID: #486932 - in reply to #486917
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 5/1/2018 18:17

Rytoon - 5/1/2018 05:30

There comes a time whether you go or not,this board is divided but the present fucker needs chasing out of town,the apathy is unacceptable, bit like the tories,getting away with murder.


Agreed.

One thing I still cant believe is that Ashley and co have been found guilty in a court of law of repeatedly and intentionally misleading the fans. It's coming up to nearly a decade of that one with many instances of it happening still but here we are still being played remnants of that tune without as much as a table turned over.


Rafa must also be aware of this toony.
Why is he taking 4 million a year from Ashley if he is not complicit in the scam.


I have no doubts that there are many plants in the media as well as social media with many words of the tune being 'dont shoot the messenger but.....' so im just wondering when or if the penny will finally drop for the masses?


Or Rafa



We're one of the richest football clubs in the world who are run with a budget not fit for division 4 and told by every outlet that Ashley has got to that we have no right to expect anything, not even crumbs.

Until the money dries up, Ashley will never leave and there's far too many out there allowing that to happen, not just the fans.

And Rafa is the biggest reason at this point in time why so many are allowing Ashley's absolute piss take and rape of our club





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05 January 2018 19:20 Post ID: #486933 - in reply to #483771
What makes it worse is when Mick Quinn has tweeted that he reckons an agreement has been made between Ashley and Staveley. These things aren't helping matters without any official word.
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05 January 2018 19:53 Post ID: #486935 - in reply to #483771
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Maybe the lovely Amanda is in on it too and she is keeping it quiet until the end of the window to avoid spending? Stranger things have happened.
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05 January 2018 20:58 Post ID: #486938 - in reply to #486933
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 5/1/2018 19:20

What makes it worse is when Mick Quinn has tweeted that he reckons an agreement has been made between Ashley and Staveley. These things aren't helping matters without any official word.


He knows fuck all, and don't get sucked into 6th Jan shite, nothing is happening...
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06 January 2018 09:53 Post ID: #486945 - in reply to #483771
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Well................its the 6th. Not holding my breath.
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06 January 2018 10:13 Post ID: #486952 - in reply to #483771
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Tumbleweeds...
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06 January 2018 10:26 Post ID: #486953 - in reply to #483771
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The newspapers haven't had a whiff so nowts happening today other than our normal FA Cup exit to a lower league side.
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06 January 2018 11:02 Post ID: #486956 - in reply to #486922
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 5/1/2018 18:33

PieMag - 5/1/2018 18:27

Is this an admission that rafa is part of the problem then toony ?



No because I think he's been the most honest bloke we've had since Keegan/Shearer. Not one manager has came close since to telling us how things are in relation to being lied to or in the dark. I think Rafa likes politics, i'll give you that but if he goes, it'll collapse like a deck of cards.


TNMW, surely if we've learned one thing its that the Porcine one will take cover, issue a couple of condecending statements, there will be a small number of rumblings/grumblings. Go straight to deja vue, do not pass go, do not collect £200.
Storm in a teacup, Ashley will just sit it out.
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06 January 2018 13:13 Post ID: #486958 - in reply to #483771
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Well the 6th has arrived, any announcements or is this going to drag on and on and on........
No signings so far but they are working hard on transfers blah blah blah!!!!
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08 January 2018 20:01 Post ID: #487050 - in reply to #483771
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Found this an interesting read.Hope he is right.

http://tombenbow.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/the-meaning-behind-sports-d...
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08 January 2018 20:15 Post ID: #487052 - in reply to #487050
markylad74 - 8/1/2018 20:01

Found this an interesting read.Hope he is right.

http://tombenbow.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/the-meaning-behind-sports-d...


That Chris Holt is pulling it to pieces on Twatter tho however as time goes on and Ashley continues to leave things as they are, people like Tom are the ones helping him get away with it.

Wouldn't be surprised if he was on the payroll.
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08 January 2018 20:26 Post ID: #487053 - in reply to #483771
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I am trying to cling on to anything regards getting rid of Ashley.Then I read a few of that Chris Holts post there and fuck me,talk about putting a downer on the takeover happening.
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09 January 2018 07:39 Post ID: #487071 - in reply to #483771
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I've started to wonder if the Porcine one isn't trying to'force' RB's hand. Maybe he wants him out as he's too popular a figure with the support and not towing the party line like many previous.
He maybe feels that RB may walk if there is no financial support given again this window. The Fat Man knows that the supporter discontent will be relatively not and short lived, history tells us that.
Pretty much going to script i reckon (sadly).
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09 January 2018 09:04 Post ID: #487072 - in reply to #487071
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Birdys - 9/1/2018 07:39

I've started to wonder if the Porcine one isn't trying to'force' RB's hand. Maybe he wants him out as he's too popular a figure with the support and not towing the party line like many previous.
He maybe feels that RB may walk if there is no financial support given again this window. The Fat Man knows that the supporter discontent will be relatively not and short lived, history tells us that.
Pretty much going to script i reckon (sadly).


Decent point, but I feel the boot is on the other foot.
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09 January 2018 12:21 Post ID: #487075 - in reply to #483771
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That Tom's blog does sound quite plausible. I hope he is right.
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09 January 2018 15:13 Post ID: #487077 - in reply to #483771
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Wish I could see it. the link clicks through but all I get is a pretty picture. What's the gist of it?
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09 January 2018 15:29 Post ID: #487080 - in reply to #483771
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There you go Harry

The meaning behind the Sports Direct filing: Why the Newcastle United takeover is imminent
January 08, 2018
While searching for developments on the Newcastle United takeover earlier, I discovered that the contents of Sports Direct’s ‘authority to buy back shares’ filing had been released. This surprised me, as the previous two filings on this authority aren't available to the public.

I decided to analyse the contents, and revaluate the speculative conclusions I reached in ‘Sports Direct Ltd: The Next Chapter in the Newcastle United Takeover?’. In that article, I analysed why Mike Ashley might want to repurchase Sports Direct shares, why Sports Direct need an injection of cash to do so, and how this relates to the Newcastle United takeover. If you haven’t read that article already, I’d highly recommend you do so for additional context. You can do so by clicking here.

The Law on Share buyback (if you read my previous article, skip this!):
Yearly, share buy backs are capped at £15k or 5% of a company’s value, whichever is lowest. In the case of Sports Direct, this will be 15k worth of shares per year. This cap can only be increased if the majority of shareholders vote to do so, followed by a filing at Companies House. If released, the filing will state how many shares the company have allowed themselves to buyback, and thus how much they are planning to invest in their own shares in the near future.

The contents of the filing:
This filing contains numerous ‘resolutions’, which each increase Sports Direct’s cap on share buyback. I will go through the resolutions one by one, explaining how many shares each resolution have allowed Sports Direct to buy back, followed by the implications this has for Newcastle United. Resolution 9 allows for the purchase of up to £17.6 million in Sports Direct shares. Resolution 10 allows for the purchase of up to 35.3 million in Sports Direct shares, on top of that permitted by Resolution 9. Resolution 11 allows for the company to purchase up to £2.6 million in ‘equity securities’ in accordance with s560 of the Companies Act 2006, which defines equity securities as 'ordinary shares'. Finally, Resolution 13 allows for Sports Direct to purchase up to 79.4 million shares in the company, on top of the cash sums permitted in Resolutions 9, 10, & 11. At today’s Sports Direct share value, Resolution 13 allows for the purchase of £297.7 million worth of Sports Direct shares. So, in total, the filing permits Sports Direct to buyback around £350 million of its own shares.

What does this mean for Newcastle United?
The theory I put forth in ‘Sports Direct Ltd: The Next Chapter in the Newcastle United Takeover?’, was that Mike Ashley was going to sell Newcastle United, then use the proceeds to invest in Sports Direct shares. However, I had initial doubts regarding this theory, as the precise amount of shares permitted for buyback under this filing weren’t available to the public. Therefore, the cap could’ve been lifted for an ‘employee share scheme’, or for the reinvestment of funds generated by a Debenhams share sale, rather than a Newcastle United sale. However, £350 million is far too much for an employee share scheme. Secondly, Mike Ashley’s Debenhams stock is only worth around £40 million. The cap would’ve only been lifted by £40 million if it were for the investment of funds generated by a Debenhams sale.


The contents of this filing confirm my belief the Newcastle Takeover is going ahead. Mike Ashley will use £350 million generated through the sale of Newcastle United to reinvest in Sports Direct shares. This is why he established the legal structure to allow himself to repurchase £350 million of Sports Direct stock last Thursday. He wouldn’t have raised the cap if he wasn’t planning to use it. The amount he has raised the cap by is too aligned with the value of Newcastle United football club to be a mere coincidence. In conclusion, the contents of the filing released today has confirmed my belief in my initial theory that the Newcastle United takeover is going ahead. I believe the price has been agreed for around £350 million pounds.
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09 January 2018 15:56 Post ID: #487082 - in reply to #483771
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Nice to have had a chance to read it. There are a few things in there that mean it should be taken with a pinch of salt.
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