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NUFC 'Takeover' Thread
14 December 2017 19:42 Post ID: #485978 - in reply to #483771
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Looks in doubt now, Staveley fearing relegation and subsequent loss of income.
Benitez may well be denied his wish by failing to halt what is a significant slide and with time running out.
Ashley on holiday from Friday and with the wait for sanctioning any deal likely to eat well into January, it does not look good.
Can't blame Staveley, the current run unlikely to be halted in the next few games. If we had been in better form and league position the deal would have been concluded.
Just look where Palace were a short while back absolutely hapless and look how close they are to us now.
Ashley needs to build in a relegation financial settlement to move forward and you cannot be confident he will.
The other side of the coin is he will not get an offer like this if we go down.
I see Benitez walking or being dismissed if Ashley remains.
I hope I am wrong and the takeover materialises.
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14 December 2017 19:48 Post ID: #485979 - in reply to #483771
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Just been on SSN that "Staveley is looking to include a relegation compensation clause, should the club get relegated after she takes over" but fatty isnt happy about it. i bet the fat cunt fucks this up.
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14 December 2017 19:50 Post ID: #485980 - in reply to #483771
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It's easy to form an opinion from the outside. I don't think Ashley will sack Rafa, bearing in mind a pay off. It would cost Rafa millions to walk.

I am probably wrong but I can imagine Ashley enjoying the power of being able to undermine a global household name who has arguably the most comprehensive CV in European club football.
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14 December 2017 19:51 Post ID: #485981 - in reply to #483771
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I can see Pulis being our next manager when fatty sacks Benitez or he walks (doubt it) if this takeover goes tits up. as you say Owl you cant blame her for wanting some sort of guarantees regarding her investment.
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14 December 2017 20:14 Post ID: #485982 - in reply to #483771
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The relegation clause if true will be nowhere near the amount the fat cunt would have to spend to keep us up.Thought yesterdays news was a bit too good to be true.It doesnt happen that easy for us.
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14 December 2017 21:06 Post ID: #485984 - in reply to #483771
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What happened to the NDA ? Thought this was legally binding and could be expensive if one party breaks the agreement.
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14 December 2017 21:09 Post ID: #485985 - in reply to #483771
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If both parties agree to break the NDA then the NDA becomes a DA.
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14 December 2017 21:21 Post ID: #485986 - in reply to #485981
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billybobcat - 14/12/2017 19:51

I can see Pulis being our next manager when fatty sacks Benitez or he walks (doubt it)


My guess would be Ranieri bb.

Same formula same result.
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14 December 2017 21:41 Post ID: #485990 - in reply to #483771
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14 December 2017 21:46 Post ID: #485992 - in reply to #483771
Only the media are benefiting from reporting the ever changing scenario of this supposed takeover. It's them that gets the clicks on the back of raising or draining the spirit.

Probably nowt happened for weeks.
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14 December 2017 22:22 Post ID: #486001 - in reply to #483771
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Ashley and Pulis are made for each other. A match made in anti-football hell.
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15 December 2017 10:07 Post ID: #486007 - in reply to #485986
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PieMag - 14/12/2017 21:21

billybobcat - 14/12/2017 19:51

I can see Pulis being our next manager when fatty sacks Benitez or he walks (doubt it)


My guess would be Ranieri bb.

Same formula same result.


I think he'd do OK here mate.
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15 December 2017 10:23 Post ID: #486008 - in reply to #486007
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billybobcat - 15/12/2017 10:07

PieMag - 14/12/2017 21:21

billybobcat - 14/12/2017 19:51

I can see Pulis being our next manager when fatty sacks Benitez or he walks (doubt it)


My guess would be Ranieri bb.

Same formula same result.


I think he'd do OK here mate.


Working for Ashley ?
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15 December 2017 10:29 Post ID: #486009 - in reply to #483771
The only decent thing about the club at present is the Rafa effect. He goes and the whole lot will collapse. Potential takeover as well.
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15 December 2017 10:31 Post ID: #486010 - in reply to #483771
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I do think Benitez being here is a key factor in any potential takeover.
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15 December 2017 10:48 Post ID: #486012 - in reply to #483771
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Correct Pyrry but if it goes through I don't think benitez will be manager more than 2-3 years.
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15 December 2017 11:12 Post ID: #486014 - in reply to #486012
billybobcat - 15/12/2017 10:48

Correct Pyrry but if it goes through I don't think benitez will be manager more than 2-3 years.


If he is allowed to sign his first or second choice targets instead of players way down the list and he doesnt achieve results then that's a given
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15 December 2017 11:23 Post ID: #486016 - in reply to #483771
Getting back onto the potential takeover. The Financial Times reckon they have an inside track on a deal.

It sounds like Staveley doesn't trust Ashley and rather than her pay £300m up front and have a clause in for some cash back off Ashley on relegation, she wants to pay a lower fee up front and top it up to the £300m if we stay up.

It's also stated that they reckon the group involved think we're more than likely going down.
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15 December 2017 11:53 Post ID: #486019 - in reply to #483771
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He's not dealing with amateurs he's dealing with proper business people. They know the score, who in their right mind would pay what fatty wants with the clip of the squad they have.

How much would it cost to keep them up? If I were PCP I'd say you have a week except our terms or you can get to fuck. Fatty must know if they go back down its not a guarantee of coming straight back up meaning the value goes down even further.
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15 December 2017 12:13 Post ID: #486020 - in reply to #483771
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You may well be right BBC re the 2-3 years timeframe, but thats the likelyhood of the average lifespan of a premier league manager these days.

See how things pan out i guess
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15 December 2017 12:34 Post ID: #486022 - in reply to #483771
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Aye mate along as fatty sells up I'd take another relegation if it meant he'd piss off.
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15 December 2017 12:56 Post ID: #486025 - in reply to #483771
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think a lot of people would, but hope to god it doesnt happen. The premiership is the promised land, being in the championship gave us winning streaks etc after a season of getting humped but the football everytime you drop a division just gets worse.

keep us up and bring back hope and ambition.
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15 December 2017 13:14 Post ID: #486026 - in reply to #483771
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But at least he'd be gone and i think we'd come straight back up.
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15 December 2017 13:37 Post ID: #486027 - in reply to #486016
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 15/12/2017 11:23
It sounds like Staveley doesn't trust Ashley and rather than her pay £300m up front and have a clause in for some cash back off Ashley on relegation, she wants to pay a lower fee up front and top it up to the £300m if we stay up.

It's also stated that they reckon the group involved think we're more than likely going down.


I like her already, who in their right mind would trust that despicable fat cunt?

65% chance of relegation, think that's being optimistic as I'd put it at about 90% and I'm being generous.
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15 December 2017 14:27 Post ID: #486028 - in reply to #483771
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Totally agree ukrocks who in their right mind would trust that fat fucker,he even screwed his own parents over money wise. I think its a bit lower than 90% but not much that's with the takeover going through, if it doesn't its 100% they are down.
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15 December 2017 14:32 Post ID: #486033 - in reply to #483771
With us not actually being in the relegation zone or in it at all, the consensus is that we will at some point over Xmas. It's then all about January and we'll need 3 players minimum to have a chance of moving up the table.

Whoever is in charge, there will be a spend and for that reason I reckon we're no more than 50/50 either way to go.
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15 December 2017 15:35 Post ID: #486037 - in reply to #483771
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I wonder how affluent the prospective buyers are? There seems to be a reluctance to get things into gear. Surely they will know the implications of a blank transfer window and how much there is to lose by not acting to strengthen the team. While I don't believe it's a case of out of the frying pan into the fire with owners, it appears that they are not going to be a blueprint of Man City as many supports would like to believe. I hope I'm wrong but I just get this nagging doubt about it.
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15 December 2017 16:13 Post ID: #486038 - in reply to #486037
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Thing is the way the fat cunt has run this club its not just a case of buying the club then buying players.The academy,training ground and facilities in general are way behind other clubs.We have a shite side but not one player from within our youth/academy side has been good enough to come through.Its not going to be cheap to sort us out from top to bottom.
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15 December 2017 19:52 Post ID: #486041 - in reply to #483771
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Staveley is ok, Ashley is the problem in negotiations always looking for the extra buck.
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15 December 2017 20:07 Post ID: #486042 - in reply to #483771
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Even if Staveley isn't as connected financially as people thought getting shot of that fat fucker is all that matters.
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15 December 2017 20:19 Post ID: #486043 - in reply to #486042
billybobcat - 15/12/2017 20:07

Even if Staveley isn't as connected financially as people thought getting shot of that fat fucker is all that matters.


It is all that matters.

Even if we were run how Ashley said he wanted us to be and that as a self sustainable club who could use what was generated then we'd be a force. Even moreso if the commercial side went to the club.
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15 December 2017 20:53 Post ID: #486044 - in reply to #483771
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I’m never t sticking up for Fat Mike here (and I’ve said this before) - If PCP buy the club, then they buy the club and everything that goes with it

They take the risks as well as the rewards

Why when the club is sold do they have a right to go back and ask for money off because they are relegated - Ashley has fucked Newcastle lock stock and barrel but once gone it’s got nothing to do with him or his past mis management

Just my opinion - but they are buying the club for 300 million because of the position it is in ( if we were in the top 4 there would be another 100 million plus on top of that figure)

Can’t have you cake and eat it
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15 December 2017 21:05 Post ID: #486045 - in reply to #483771
Read this article before and it also mentions that we'd be worth a hell of a lot more if Ashley had run us as a football club instead of like one of his tat branches.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/john-giles-newcastle-would-b...

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15 December 2017 22:28 Post ID: #486047 - in reply to #483771
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That my point Toony if this had been run properly PCP wouldn’t be bidding 300 million

They are getting us because we weren’t/aren’t run properly

Every business has an element of risk - they know what position the club and team are in because the league doesn’t lie

Nothing is guaranteed in Football I’m afraid and trying to put clauses in a contract reference relegation or Champions league is a non starter in my opinion



Edited by Jackals Tooth 15/12/2017 22:30
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15 December 2017 22:38 Post ID: #486048 - in reply to #483771
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I have seen it reported that contrary to what is being generally said Stavely has offered £250 mil and the discussion is about adding more if we remain in The Premiership. Seems to me £250 mil is a fair price fora Potential Championship side when you then have to rectify many areas of the clun including players to try and get out. It won't be easy next time.
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15 December 2017 22:48 Post ID: #486049 - in reply to #483771
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I 'm probably in a minority here but I genuinely believe we can be bigger than Man U.

Obviously not in terms of trophies,but if we were in Man City's position for example, who would bet against a full 100,000 seater stadium every home game (Takes sip from can of Carlsberg)

A real business person will see 300 million + as a snip.

Now back to being bigger than Man U,their legendary status started with a plane crash,so all we need is a plane and our star studded team on it.

Don't take offence anyone......





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15 December 2017 23:09 Post ID: #486051 - in reply to #486049
PieMag - 15/12/2017 22:48

I 'm probably in a minority here but I genuinely believe we can be bigger than Man U.

Obviously not in terms of trophies,but if we were in Man City's position for example, who would bet against a full 100,000 seater stadium every home game (Takes sip from can of Carlsberg)

A real business person will see 300 million + as a snip.

Now back to being bigger than Man U,their legendary status started with a plane crash,so all we need is a plane and our star studded team on it.

Don't take offence anyone......







No offence here, was just going to highlight that fact.
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16 December 2017 11:13 Post ID: #486053 - in reply to #486049
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PieMag - 15/12/2017 22:48

I 'm probably in a minority here but I genuinely believe we can be bigger than Man U.

Obviously not in terms of trophies,but if we were in Man City's position for example, who would bet against a full 100,000 seater stadium every home game (Takes sip from can of Carlsberg)

A real business person will see 300 million + as a snip.

Now back to being bigger than Man U,their legendary status started with a plane crash,so all we need is a plane and our star studded team on it.

Don't take offence anyone......







Completely agree, ran properly, a 100,000 seater stadium is about enough, too many people don't realise the potential, lets hope PCP, have done their homework, as a new stadium will be an early pre-requisite in any real plan for success.

100,000 a week would stick in the fat cunts craw, all paying a decent figure, no discounts, a team playing great football could charge £30 a cheap ticket, and still fill it. People are willing to give up other items to have a great Saturday, its they are lost to the club due to the FCB effect.

Similarly as mentioned who would want to connect and sponsor the club, when it is linked with SD, the commercial side is a complete joke, no doubt at the behest of the FCB, to get as much exposure for SD.

It can be done, you just need to look beyond the debris that is a football club at the moment......
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16 December 2017 11:25 Post ID: #486054 - in reply to #483771
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I cant agree with you lads sorry
Man U already have the brand in place, and its global already ! all they would do is expand their ground to keep beating any rival. Being bigger than them not only comes down to the biggest crowd capacity.
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16 December 2017 12:09 Post ID: #486055 - in reply to #483771
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I’d worry about being bigger than Southampton, WBA etc, Man Utd, Jesus Christ.
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