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NUFC 'Takeover' Thread
04 October 2017 13:43 Post ID: #483482 - in reply to #483480
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keggy_keagal - 4/10/2017 13:14

Why use legal means to try and block HMRC from seeing the documents unless you're worried about what they contain ?


Agree KK, there must be something going on, hope a points deduction isn't administered, almost perversely, it may lower the price, hasten another relegation, and cost the Fat Cunt a fortune.

How would I laugh, payback time massively....
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05 October 2017 07:36 Post ID: #483488 - in reply to #483478
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crooktownmags - 4/10/2017 10:46

I got a feeling it might be for real this time, but might depend on Rafa signing a longer contract.


Can't see that having much influence over a potential deal CTM. Staveley will know s we'll as anyone how fickle football is. Surely if she is trying to broker a deal any Benitez contact extension would be approved by the new owners. Surely Benitez wouldn't be daft enough to sign a contract extension with the feckers based on promises of change etc. Reckon he's found out the hard way what lying charlatans they are.
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05 October 2017 07:39 Post ID: #483489 - in reply to #483482
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daftladguy - 4/10/2017 13:43

keggy_keagal - 4/10/2017 13:14

Why use legal means to try and block HMRC from seeing the documents unless you're worried about what they contain ?


Agree KK, there must be something going on, hope a points deduction isn't administered, almost perversely, it may lower the price, hasten another relegation, and cost the Fat Cunt a fortune.

How would I laugh, payback time massively....


If there are some dodgy dealings let's hope the HMRC throw the book at them.
I'd love Ashley & Charnley to be sharing a cell with Raymond the Bastard, a life long NUFC supporter.
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05 October 2017 09:15 Post ID: #483490 - in reply to #483260
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I have a niggling feeling that if this proposed takeover moves forward in a positive direction, that the rotund one will want to keep his snout in the trough in some capacity . He may be many things but daft in a business sense he is not. The premier league is littered with pots of gold for him .My niggling feeling is he gets round the table asks an obscene amount to sell , barter and tells the buyer I still want 5 - 10 % of the club.

I just think it's his M.O. He always has stakes in companies.

Hope to god I am wrong and the interestep parties blow him out of the water with an offer to good to turn down.
It's nearly xmas I can dream.
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05 October 2017 12:16 Post ID: #483491 - in reply to #483260
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I don't think Rafa signing a deal has any affect on this tbh

If you believe what you read Amanda was a guest of Rafa and they have been in contact before at Liverpool

My guess (and if he is sensible) he will only sign a deal WHEN the club is bought - this way he can get his guarantee on football matters, transfer budgets etc, and probably a mega pay rise

Again if you speculate (and its nice dreaming) if the truth of a 28 billion hedge fund / fortune is true then we could well become the richest club in the world overnight albeit depends whats in the small print, but they could turn the club into something massive

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05 October 2017 16:20 Post ID: #483492 - in reply to #483490
The Pyrry - 5/10/2017 09:15

I have a niggling feeling that if this proposed takeover moves forward in a positive direction, that the rotund one will want to keep his snout in the trough in some capacity . He may be many things but daft in a business sense he is not. The premier league is littered with pots of gold for him .My niggling feeling is he gets round the table asks an obscene amount to sell , barter and tells the buyer I still want 5 - 10 % of the club.

I just think it's his M.O. He always has stakes in companies.

Hope to god I am wrong and the interestep parties blow him out of the water with an offer to good to turn down.
It's nearly xmas I can dream.


This is in line with my thoughts in that aside from my view that it is the usual PR guff, even if it wasn't, Ashley would want his imprint left somehow to benefit himself in the years to come.

It's about time the demons were exorcised though and we get a club that does the city proud for once instead of one just tarnished time after time by the crooks that wander through the corridors.

I have the nightmare scenario of things staying as they are for years to come and I have a dream version where a new respected owner comes in and just rips all the tat adverts down on day one with a stadium refresh or massive blueprint to take us forward emerges soon after.

Head wins over heart 999999 times out of 1 million but with this concerning NUFC, the 1 chance left is one you dare to get your hopes built up by as we've been burnt far too many times.

Guess we'll find out soon enough whether this is serious or not.
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06 October 2017 13:43 Post ID: #483496 - in reply to #483260
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Been very little or nothing happening apart from speculation on here. The suspense is killing
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07 October 2017 08:59 Post ID: #483511 - in reply to #483260
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I think something may happen but as always it will depend upon what conditions the fat cunt imposes on the sale. Will he want to keep his advertising, will he want to still divert the merchandising sales through shite direct, will he relinquish all of the brand rights and registered trade marks he hoovered up? These are stumbling blocks as much as the asking price as future owners will surely want to maximise income.
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07 October 2017 12:19 Post ID: #483514 - in reply to #483260
Press are reporting that there are 3 separate groups who have signed NDA's and are currently conducting due diligence. Amanda Staveley and her PCP Capital Investments group are interested so they make fourth, they haven't signed a NDA. It's also reported (and quite how they can have a source on this as Ashley's left hand doesn't know what his right hand is doing) that Ashley wants a quick sale as he doesn't want to the club to spend in January. Apparently the prospective purchasers all want the deal done prior to the next TV deal which would raise the asking price further.

This being Ashley he'll want the most money possible with no concern over the club. Unless we're very lucky i'm half expecting a Thaksin Shinawatra type deal here .
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07 October 2017 12:25 Post ID: #483515 - in reply to #483260
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I'm convinced he'll not sell, it's great free publicity for his shite brand and as long as that's around and prosperous he'll keep the club. As for those who say he doesn't need the hassle, what hassle? He gets an easy ride off the fans and once every few years does an interview where he answers his own pre-scripted questions.
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07 October 2017 12:34 Post ID: #483516 - in reply to #483515
Paul Kannell - 7/10/2017 12:25

I'm convinced he'll not sell, it's great free publicity for his shite brand and as long as that's around and prosperous he'll keep the club. As for those who say he doesn't need the hassle, what hassle? He gets an easy ride off the fans and once every few years does an interview where he answers his own pre-scripted questions.


Im convinced he's staying as well but there are no doubts that there are things afoot that haven't happened before although im unsure whether it's PR or real.

Usually, the 'for sale' stories happen after a period of uncertainty or come out to quell any kick off but this time it has occurred when we've arguably been at our strongest for years.

Personally I think his model is at the end of the road as just spending the minimum to survive has been rumbled as well as it being too risky to do as two relegations in his tenure proves. We're at our most ripe to pick off the tree but as has been mentioned, it's all about the terms he wants rid under as it wont be as straight forward as it should be.
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07 October 2017 16:56 Post ID: #483517 - in reply to #483260
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Im not sure what is going on really - to get out with £400 million in his pocket must to him be a good deal - the club is in profit surely so he makes a tidy sum whatever happens - he can then carry on his high street takeover

He knows money has to be spent on transfers and with a disaster window just gone he can’t afford another one or two

He also knows Rafa is popular with the fans and if he went the blame lies with him and the board - Ashley has rode his luck to many times and he knows it

So maybe this is his now or never chance to sell get some very decent money and leave before it all goes tits up for a third time which if he doesn’t invest or Rafa goes is going to happen

£400 million isn’t cheap so you would expect anyone whom buys would have money behind them to invest and try and turn the club into something much bigger - being a one club city with full capacity crowds is a major selling point

One other thing who owns the land around St James - was this bought by Ashley or sold off - I ask because a big investment might want to look to expand the stadium and I bet the land won’t come with the sale if you know what I mean

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07 October 2017 17:38 Post ID: #483518 - in reply to #483260
I'm sure the council gave Ashley permission to develop student accom and office blocks on the land opposite the Gallowgate End earlier this year. Ashley got the lease when he bought the club, but he plans/planned to do this as a project without Newcastle United. Shepherd and Hall had a feasibility study done which found that the club could raise capacity to 60'000 by increasing the Gallowgate to the size of the Leazes and Milburn. Any interested party would surely have to have it written in stone that the lease is returned to the club.
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07 October 2017 18:29 Post ID: #483519 - in reply to #483260
That bit of land sold has supposedly no effect on increasing the Gallowgate to the same height as the Milburn and Leazes end. It just makes it harder to do.

One thing that sticks out though is that for the NE1 bit that the ground sits on and is the crown jewel of the city as well as for miles around, they nar arf make it hard to improve it as the listed Leazes Terrace is doing so but as soon as they want some tatty student eyesore knocking up, it's allowed without as much as a paddy from anyone.

Once the day arrives, if it ever does, that someone with ambition and foresight of improving the club then you'll see how these things are done regardless of the cost. Just hope it's soon.
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07 October 2017 21:39 Post ID: #483524 - in reply to #483260
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Fingers crossed Toony fingers crossed
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07 October 2017 21:50 Post ID: #483525 - in reply to #483260
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If I remember correctly, didn't we want to move to build a new stadium just like the Spuds are doing right now? Build next door to our existing one, keeping the same location and infrastructure but the Freemen of the city and the council told us no. I'm sure the park and the surrounding places would have benefited from it.

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07 October 2017 22:50 Post ID: #483527 - in reply to #483525
Mcnamee67 - 7/10/2017 21:50

If I remember correctly, didn't we want to move to build a new stadium just like the Spuds are doing right now? Build next door to our existing one, keeping the same location and infrastructure but the Freemen of the city and the council told us no. I'm sure the park and the surrounding places would have benefited from it.


We did and for me it's the best idea still.

People who preferred the cows to roam free or allow their dogs to shite in peace in an absolute shit tip of a place won the day. Even the students who wander across the bit of land in question and would have had 5 minutes added onto their journey due to the new build disapproved of it with the corrupt clip boarded survey. Cunts.

The land where the ground is and just North could all be used as one giant new ground at the centre piece of a spectacular park. Maybe some new owners could foresee the potential here because at present it's just a druggies holiday park.
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08 October 2017 00:53 Post ID: #483529 - in reply to #483260
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It's a bit of greenery in our city,there's not that much apart from Leazes Park,fuck that,leave the cows in peace & let tubby spend his days grazing on it if he decides to sell,still think the fucker is playing us,just another advertising opportunity for his dirty tat over the last week,hope I'm wrong.
Hoy a 100,000 seater stadium up in Newburn,the transport links are there.
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08 October 2017 01:14 Post ID: #483530 - in reply to #483260
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But who would fill it Ry?! You wouldn't because you're boycotting, oh no you're not, oh yes you are, oh no you're not.

Oh God, who knows?! ??
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08 October 2017 01:22 Post ID: #483531 - in reply to #483260
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Haha,mi nemesis a bit confrontational neppo,god only knows..
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08 October 2017 01:26 Post ID: #483532 - in reply to #483531
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Rytoon - 8/10/2017 01:22

Haha,mi nemesis a bit confrontational neppo,god only knows..


Just leg pullin', hope you're ok ??
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08 October 2017 01:28 Post ID: #483533 - in reply to #483260
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& there's no need of 5 ?
One would have done.
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08 October 2017 01:33 Post ID: #483534 - in reply to #483260
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Yep, lost me again, within a post ??
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08 October 2017 02:04 Post ID: #483535 - in reply to #483260
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"Pay attention to the open sky".
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08 October 2017 13:58 Post ID: #483541 - in reply to #483260
Still dont think there's any truth in a takeover. Today alone has seen contradictory stories with The Times again saying the asking price has been reduced by £70m but other media outlets saying that there's four interested groups.

Im sure if I was selling something and there was interest, id be wanting an auction not reducing the price. Looks like Barnes and Bishop have been caught out again.
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08 October 2017 14:27 Post ID: #483542 - in reply to #483260
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You're prob' right TNMW but if there's some truth in the HMRC rumours then Fat Mike might be preparing to head for the hills. Could be a big fine coming and those ' in the know' will have a good idea what that'll be.
A possible points deduction too (???) will further reduce the price.
Fat Mike has had enough bad publicity lately maybe he just wants to cut and run.
My feelings at the moment are i can't see any potential buyers touching it with a barge pole until things are resolved, would you?
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08 October 2017 14:43 Post ID: #483543 - in reply to #483542
Birdys - 8/10/2017 14:27

You're prob' right TNMW but if there's some truth in the HMRC rumours then Fat Mike might be preparing to head for the hills. Could be a big fine coming and those ' in the know' will have a good idea what that'll be.
A possible points deduction too (???) will further reduce the price.
Fat Mike has had enough bad publicity lately maybe he just wants to cut and run.
My feelings at the moment are i can't see any potential buyers touching it with a barge pole until things are resolved, would you?


I can see people wanting the club and there has been interest many times over the last 9 years or so.

Every single time though has seen the interested party messed around but as soon as Ashley wants rid, he'll get a buyer. Still dont think he wants rid now and it's just a convenient distraction.
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08 October 2017 20:36 Post ID: #483545 - in reply to #483260
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Maybe this is a double bluff and the consortiums are using the interest in us to force something out of Liverpool or the spuds

On saying that the papers are reporting Liverpool as been worth a cool 1bn quid

Imaging 400 million for us and 600 million to spend over 5 seasons we have that potential
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09 October 2017 17:11 Post ID: #483552 - in reply to #483260
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Four in the hunt for the club it seems - if the Times is to be believed. (more so than others, I suppose).

So long as it's not a middle-east outfit - I'd be delighted.
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09 October 2017 20:11 Post ID: #483553 - in reply to #483260
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The money will be Middle East or Far East whom ever it is.

I have a gut feeling that it will be Qatar lead somehow

If Liverpool are worth a billion quid then th spuds can’t be far behind that. so 380 million for us doesn’t appear to be that bad a deal

But of course we are talking Fat Mike here so he will likely get a deal set up and just before they put pen to paper he’ll probably lob another 100 million on the price with a take it or leave it scenario
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09 October 2017 20:11 Post ID: #483554 - in reply to #483260
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The money will be Middle East or Far East whom ever it is.

I have a gut feeling that it will be Qatar lead somehow

If Liverpool are worth a billion quid then th spuds can’t be far behind that. so 380 million for us doesn’t appear to be that bad a deal

But of course we are talking Fat Mike here so he will likely get a deal set up and just before they put pen to paper he’ll probably lob another 100 million on the price with a take it or leave it scenario
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09 October 2017 20:53 Post ID: #483555 - in reply to #483260
It's World Cup season and a big one for shite direct. Takeover talks are there purely to take the emphasis off Rafa not getting the promised funds, I'm almost certain of it.
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09 October 2017 21:27 Post ID: #483556 - in reply to #483260
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We've been ripe for proper investment for years now. I'm convinced it'll happen.

Just don't want it to be from the middle-east. Anywhere, but the middle-east.
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09 October 2017 21:38 Post ID: #483557 - in reply to #483556
CuckFan - 9/10/2017 21:27

We've been ripe for proper investment for years now. I'm convinced it'll happen.

Just don't want it to be from the middle-east. Anywhere, but the middle-east.


I agree, we are ripe for investment or a buy out but the amount of cash that Ashley has got away with diverting as well as the masses of free publicity just hang over him like a stinking toilet.

The more I think of it the more I see this as one of their PR tricks. Hopefully im wrong.
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10 October 2017 13:41 Post ID: #483558 - in reply to #483260
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I was just talking to a dyed in the wool makem, one of those tools who claims to have contacts inside the club and is "hardly ever wrong" (stop me if you have heard this one before) and he says in fact Amanda Staveley and her team are currently brokering deals for Newcastle and Sunderland. Confirmed by a mate of the gadgee who puts concerts on at "the stadium".

No..........me neither!

Starting to fear that the whole thing is just a smokescreen to keep the pressure off Ashley to spend any money in January. Another window successfully negotiated from his point of view.

I would like to be wrong.
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14 October 2017 19:07 Post ID: #483607 - in reply to #483552
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CuckFan - 9/10/2017 17:11

Four in the hunt for the club it seems - if the Times is to be believed. (more so than others, I suppose).

So long as it's not a middle-east outfit - I'd be delighted.


Any particular reason why?
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14 October 2017 20:34 Post ID: #483608 - in reply to #483607
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16 October 2017 16:54 Post ID: #483641 - in reply to #483771
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Any truth in this?
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16 October 2017 16:59 Post ID: #483642 - in reply to #483641
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Just been on SSN, he wants out by Xmas, which ties in with the whispers I had heard..
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16 October 2017 17:06 Post ID: #483643 - in reply to #483642
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daftladguy - 16/10/2017 16:59

Just been on SSN, he wants out by Xmas, which ties in with the whispers I had heard..
. A chap I work with is from Gateshead he was dancing in the hanger with joy he said exactly what you have said. Good luck you lot really need it in getting a proper owner who will invest and put the club first.
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