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13 October 2017 22:49 Post ID: #483601
This was labelled the Shearer Derby on that interview the other day but we could also call it the Keegan Derby or whichever one of ours has featured for both clubs.

As it is, we play a game in which we've done shite in basically. If we thought The Dell was bad, this 'new' place at St Mary's is just as unrewarding.

Out of the 8 league games we've played there, our track record is 1 win, 2 draws and 5 losses. The last saw major kick off with Lascelles and Daryl Janmaat with Lascelles coming of age by kicking off with everyone and Janmaat breaking his hand by punching a wall.

In the 2 seasons since we've seen a massive momentum shift of personality with teams once playing with a mentality of losing before a ball is kicked and it now being replaced with a side that doesn't even think about it.

This team was the one that played there 2 years ago.

Darlow; Janmaat Taylor Mbemba Anita; Sissoko Wijnaldum Shelvey Townsend; Perez and Mitrovic.

At best we would see 3 of that team start this time but at a guess I reckon Shelvey and Perez will be in. Hopefully it's a different outcome to the last time when it could have been double figures.
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15 October 2017 14:35 Post ID: #483614 - in reply to #483601
Ahead of the team news we are wearing blue today, Stoke were allowed to wear their stripey shirt against us so dont know why we cant wear our normal gear against the near half and half Southampton kit.

Anyway, expect a shit fest on Sky with Souness more than likely in the studio and the ground full of them shitty clapper things. Hopefully we shut them all up.
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15 October 2017 14:38 Post ID: #483615 - in reply to #483601
Team news is rumoured to contain a surprise, we'll find out in 10 minutes or so.
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15 October 2017 14:51 Post ID: #483616 - in reply to #483601
Lejeune takes Clark's place. Merino on the bench with Hayden taking his place.

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15 October 2017 14:52 Post ID: #483617 - in reply to #483601
Elliot; Yedlin, Lascelles, Lejeune, Manquillo; Shelvey, Hayden; Ritchie, Perez, Atsu; Joselu

subs: Darlow, Clark, Gamez, Merino, Diame, Murphy, Gayle

Nee Mitrovic again.
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15 October 2017 15:34 Post ID: #483618 - in reply to #483601
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As you say its a difficult place for us, but since Rafa took over the helm we seldom get taken to the cleaners, yet we seem to lack scoring goals. I still plump for a draw.
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15 October 2017 17:03 Post ID: #483620 - in reply to #483601
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Perez frustrates the fuck out of me, one minute he’s bang on his game, next minute he gets bounced off the ball way too easy.
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15 October 2017 17:23 Post ID: #483621 - in reply to #483601
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Fucking hell, no need Lejeune, sloppy.
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15 October 2017 17:24 Post ID: #483622 - in reply to #483601
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Fuck off! Fucking stupid tackle, well done, only NUFC can fuck things up like that. Now watch them lose this - retards!
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15 October 2017 17:52 Post ID: #483623 - in reply to #483601
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Having lead twice feels like a bit of a disappointment, but always take an away point. Two individual defensive errors to blame, but it happens and we kept going and Lejeune nearly won it with a good header. Some metal in this side, Shelvey didn’t disappear when needed either, fought all the way. Once again nothing upfront and Joselu and Gayle simply not good enough. Odd decision to take Perez off as well, I thought as we were much better with him on the pitch.
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15 October 2017 17:59 Post ID: #483624 - in reply to #483601
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As mentioned above two defensive errors cost us, thought Lejunne apart from a stuipd foot in when the ball was running out had a solid game. The first goal, initially Manquillo did well but how he was able to get a shot away was very poor.
Again as mentioned above very weak upfront Gayle and Joselu offered nowt really, Mitro must have really upset Rafa if he didnt even make the bench again. Is he injured?
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15 October 2017 19:38 Post ID: #483625 - in reply to #483601
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I reckon that is 2 points lost. Rafa frustrates the fuck out of me at times. Yedlin was on a tightrope yet he kept him on knowing he could be red carded. Jacob Murphy?? What a waste of 12 million pounds? Lejeune played very well but what a brain fart he had with that tackle. Can anyone tell me why Jesus Gamez is not playing? This guy is a seriously good left back judged by the last game played.
Merino. What a classy player. Hope he will be at NUFC after January next year.
Anyway greetings from little old New Zealand. Keep well all of ya.
Brian
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15 October 2017 19:45 Post ID: #483626 - in reply to #483601
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Strange one that Jacob Murphy, that said Richie and Atsu have arguably been our two most consistent players of the season.
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15 October 2017 20:51 Post ID: #483627 - in reply to #483601
Shows the improvement we've had under Rafa when we're disappointed with a draw away to Southampton when usually we get battered.
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15 October 2017 21:27 Post ID: #483628 - in reply to #483601
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To be fair, under Pardew I think everyone battered us at least once, I've been there twice and seen us win twice, can't say that about many aways.
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15 October 2017 22:05 Post ID: #483629 - in reply to #483601
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Shane Long invited the challenge by Lejeune and it was frustrating that you knew what was going to happen. Some players have this off to a fine art and it was to our cost today. First time we have conceded 2 goals away from home this season. Put into context that the we only scored one goal in 3 games away against teams that are regarded by most to be at the wrong end of the table come the end of the season then todays result was a welcome performance. How long is it since I've heard an opposition manager say we were very good defensively?
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15 October 2017 22:05 Post ID: #483630 - in reply to #483625
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newzealandtoonfan - 15/10/2017 19:38

I reckon that is 2 points lost. Rafa frustrates the fuck out of me at times. Yedlin was on a tightrope yet he kept him on knowing he could be red carded. Jacob Murphy?? What a waste of 12 million pounds? Lejeune played very well but what a brain fart he had with that tackle. Can anyone tell me why Jesus Gamez is not playing? This guy is a seriously good left back judged by the last game played.
Merino. What a classy player. Hope he will be at NUFC after January next year.
Anyway greetings from little old New Zealand. Keep well all of ya.
Brian





Murphy is a young lad who has started the grand total of 2 games for us, 1 in the league.

Aye, let's write the useless fucker off
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15 October 2017 22:24 Post ID: #483631 - in reply to #483601
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A glance at the stats today show we had 19 shots with 5 on target and 8 corners. More than the Saints in every one but we had just 38% possession. 'Funny old game' as Greavsie used to say.
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15 October 2017 22:48 Post ID: #483633 - in reply to #483601
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That's the tactics Rafa employs away, difference being from previous eras we now have a team that can, in the main, carry it off.

Look at the two away games against our nearest promotion rivals last season within five days of each other. Absolute masterclasses.
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15 October 2017 22:59 Post ID: #483634 - in reply to #483631
Mcnamee67 - 15/10/2017 22:24

A glance at the stats today show we had 19 shots with 5 on target and 8 corners. More than the Saints in every one but we had just 38% possession. 'Funny old game' as Greavsie used to say.


The possession stat is one of the most useless ones along with shots off target as the Rafa game plan generally allows the opposition to have the ball and us play on the break.

Most of their possession was just balls spread out wide and then back again. Wonder how much of that possession was forward play? I reckon the percentage goes under 30% then.
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16 October 2017 07:11 Post ID: #483635 - in reply to #483601
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I thought defensively we were pretty tight for most of the match - how Yedlin didn’t get a second yellow is behond me and should have been subbed

We lack pace up front unfortunately and Gayle isn’t the answer injured again. Probably the right game plan just the wrong player

I would have taken a draw before kick off as Southampton seam to be a bit of a bogey team for us

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16 October 2017 07:39 Post ID: #483636 - in reply to #483601
Aside the decent performances, that's just 2 points now out of the last 9 and with 5 of the next 6 games against teams in or around our expected level, we'll need to have to start winning games to stay in the division.

Not that it really matters too much to us anyway but there's now only 13 games left until the window opens. A new striker, left back and a keeper and for me that's guaranteed premier league loot for Ashley for next year.
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16 October 2017 07:55 Post ID: #483637 - in reply to #483636
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 16/10/2017 07:39

Aside the decent performances, that's just 2 points now out of the last 9 and with 5 of the next 6 games against teams in or around our expected level, we'll need to have to start winning games to stay in the division.

Not that it really matters too much to us anyway but there's now only 13 games left until the window opens. A new striker, left back and a keeper and for me that's guaranteed premier league loot for Ashley for next year.


Agreed, 6 points minimum needed from the next 3 games before we play the mancs away, with Palace and Bournemouth at home that is possible, goals in this division are the key as we all said when the window closed, unfortunately unless we're in the bottom 6 in January there's no chance of the fat parasite spending. It's early days, but from what I've seen so far there's 3 worse teams than us in this league and that will do that prick.
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16 October 2017 11:19 Post ID: #483640 - in reply to #483601
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A decent performance in which we controlled the game in the main.

Inexperience of Lejeune won them the draw - a tackle he didn’t need to make.

2 points dropped. But a draw isn’t bad away from home.

Perez played well - lots of running and closing down Forster, and deserved and took very well his goal.
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16 October 2017 18:49 Post ID: #483658 - in reply to #483601
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Goodsolid away performance but we are seriously lacking a forward imagine what Rafa could do with a bit of money?
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16 October 2017 19:16 Post ID: #483659 - in reply to #483630
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Oh I understand that. But from what I have seen in those games does not fill me with confidence. I am just stating what I saw and I sincerely hope he proves me wrong
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17 October 2017 11:53 Post ID: #483691 - in reply to #483640
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CuckFan - 16/10/2017 11:19

A decent performance in which we controlled the game in the main.

Inexperience of Lejeune won them the draw - a tackle he didn’t need to make.

2 points dropped. But a draw isn’t bad away from home.

Perez played well - lots of running and closing down Forster, and deserved and took very well his goal.


"inexperience"........................... he has played well over 200 senior games. Dopey fxcker.
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