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27 September 2017 23:45 Post ID: #483392
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Travelled a lot this midweek, with a tough midweek game that had a lot of time added on.

With a weak defence.

Some discipline, with a few chances created and a couple converted, and we can win this.
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28 September 2017 00:17 Post ID: #483393 - in reply to #483392
We can win this and that will be the message that Rafa will have got out at the training ground this week.

However, there needs to be a massive improvement in our forward play with the success rate of chance conversion needing to be increased by at least 50%.

Heart says 3-2 NUFC, Head says 4-1 defeat.
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28 September 2017 05:27 Post ID: #483394 - in reply to #483392
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Heart would love a victory and some balls points raised previously.. head thinks Liverpool's speed and movement will see us off . Away win for me (but not a spanking )
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28 September 2017 05:42 Post ID: #483395 - in reply to #483392
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Heart would love a victory and some balls points raised previously.. head thinks Liverpool's speed and movement will see us off . Away win for me (but not a spanking )
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28 September 2017 09:16 Post ID: #483396 - in reply to #483392
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I don't think it will be a free-scoring game, as our backline now has some discipline - after literally decades of going without.

Agree, we need to be able to put the ball in the back of the net more often with what we create, by our forwards.

A tight game I would think, with it being 1-1 with either of the clubs clinching the match if they can grab that vital 2nd goal. 2-1 to one club, but which?

Edited by CuckFan 28/9/2017 09:17
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28 September 2017 10:35 Post ID: #483399 - in reply to #483392
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On any day, any team can beat any other team in the premiership
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28 September 2017 11:07 Post ID: #483400 - in reply to #483392
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Liverpool seriously need to look at their back as much as we need to address our forward issues. Everybody has stated that. But their midfield and attack are creative, quick and they will score. I expect Rafa to set us up strongly to defend and move to counter attack swiftly. Seems to do for Liverpool quite a lot this season.
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28 September 2017 15:06 Post ID: #483403 - in reply to #483392
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Hoping for the best but (sadly) expecting the worst. Have we got a player who would get in their team?
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28 September 2017 15:37 Post ID: #483404 - in reply to #483392
Merino .
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29 September 2017 14:55 Post ID: #483413 - in reply to #483392
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I've just been looking. Liverpool had 35 on goal attempts against Burnley. They had 16 on Sparta's goal on Tuesday. Couldn't find the number of attempts against Leicester but they scored 3. I reckon we'll be under seige for virtually the whole game. The defence must maintain its composure and we must keep everyone on the pitch.

Here's a question: will Rafa start with Shelvey?
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29 September 2017 15:16 Post ID: #483414 - in reply to #483392
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Initially thought it was at their gaff, but saw it's at home; I think tiredness will affect their game - and so think we're in with a chance of the three points.

Agree - our defensive discipline might be the deciding factor.
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29 September 2017 15:38 Post ID: #483415 - in reply to #483392
Liverpool are very vulnerable to the counter and set plays. Their centre halves can both be bullied out the game, I don't rate Mitrovic but I'd be tempted to give him a game.
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29 September 2017 19:45 Post ID: #483416 - in reply to #483415
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keggy_keagal - 29/9/2017 15:38

Liverpool are very vulnerable to the counter and set plays. Their centre halves can both be bullied out the game, I don't rate Mitrovic but I'd be tempted to give him a game.


Just saying similiar to me brother Keggy, if we're still in it with 30 mins to go he could be the man for the occasion, but he won't start with the loon for good reason. We need to take chances and Joselu is plainly not the answer. One thing I will say is that if memory serves me right a lot of our famous victories have been the late Sunday game, when St James' is at it's drunken jumping best. I think we've a chance.
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29 September 2017 20:26 Post ID: #483417 - in reply to #483392
I remember a few tonkings we've had as well with some on a Sunday surely. One was when Steve Nichol got 4 or Liverpool did but we could have conceded 8.
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29 September 2017 21:09 Post ID: #483419 - in reply to #483417
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 29/9/2017 20:26

I remember a few tonkings we've had as well with some on a Sunday surely. One was when Steve Nichol got 4 or Liverpool did but we could have conceded 8.


I was thinking of later years really, 5:30pm Saturday I like as well for atmosphere, I remember that game you're talking about though, Kenny Wharton was out of his depth, got skinned at will.
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29 September 2017 22:31 Post ID: #483420 - in reply to #483419
Paul Kannell - 29/9/2017 21:09

Toon_NoMatterWot - 29/9/2017 20:26

I remember a few tonkings we've had as well with some on a Sunday surely. One was when Steve Nichol got 4 or Liverpool did but we could have conceded 8.


I was thinking of later years really, 5:30pm Saturday I like as well for atmosphere, I remember that game you're talking about though, Kenny Wharton was out of his depth, got skinned at will.


Aye, later years have done us ok. People being off all day from work with the drink having plenty of time to sink in. Leeds last year was an example of how that goes although that result was a bit of a freak.

On paper this is a very dangerous game but we underestimate what Rafa has done with the set up here. Anything can happen.
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29 September 2017 23:55 Post ID: #483421 - in reply to #483417
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 29/9/2017 20:26

I remember a few tonkings we've had as well with some on a Sunday surely. One was when Steve Nichol got 4 or Liverpool did but we could have conceded 8.



Think Nicol got a hat trick but they got four. Must have been around the Mirandinha time, pretty sure I had my half NUFC / half Brazil hat on
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30 September 2017 08:41 Post ID: #483424 - in reply to #483392
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1-4 it was, Spotty Mac got a pen for us, I prefer remembering the good times, The Andy Cole hat-trick when 11 Englishman gave Liverpool a footballing lesson. Can't bear to see those 4-3's I was at both of them and that was painful enough.


https://www.thesportsman.com/articles/newcastle-v-liverpool-reliving...

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01 October 2017 15:35 Post ID: #483441 - in reply to #483392
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Changed my mind having seen that lineup, no Mbemba, Shelvey replaces Hayden and Mitrovic not on the bench, fuck, we could get torn a new one here.
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01 October 2017 16:52 Post ID: #483442 - in reply to #483392
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That's all folks, let the floodgates open, mind they should've been 3 up already!

Absolutely shite!
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01 October 2017 16:58 Post ID: #483443 - in reply to #483392
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Haha, that's the only way that dopey twat's gonna get one.
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01 October 2017 17:01 Post ID: #483444 - in reply to #483392
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Fuck me, how the hell did that happen? Stupid cunt couldn't even finish it himself, had to be kicked off him. Cracking ball from Shelvey though but shit defending.
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01 October 2017 17:14 Post ID: #483445 - in reply to #483392
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Well, long way to go, but considering our players compared to theirs you have to admire Rafas organisation, with Pardew, Carver, McClaren we'd be 4 down by now.
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01 October 2017 17:53 Post ID: #483446 - in reply to #483392
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Perez needs hooked, ineffective yet again!
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01 October 2017 18:00 Post ID: #483447 - in reply to #483446
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ukrocks0007 - 1/10/2017 17:53

Perez needs hogoked, ineffective yet again!


Aye, he's even poor again
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01 October 2017 18:06 Post ID: #483449 - in reply to #483392
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Christ we offer nothing as an attacking force, not alot we can do with that fat cunt investing so little in the side, but Christ it's difficult to watch, they're dominating the middle so easily Yet somehow we're still it, ridiculous.
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01 October 2017 18:35 Post ID: #483450 - in reply to #483392
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Well, that was a difficult watch. But, Heavens, did that defence look prepared. That's no bad thing to do. Well done, Rafa: hands tied by that awful twat Ashley, you have kept out that attack.

Just hope Klopp and his employers were blind to Jamaal...
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01 October 2017 19:05 Post ID: #483451 - in reply to #483392
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Got to be ower the moon with a point there.
Defensively played well but the side's screaming out for a player to link the midfield to the lone striker,Perez is not that player & can't cut it as a number 10.
It needs to be sorted quickly or were going to struggle.I'd consider playing Ritchie just behind the striker & give Murphy a run of games on the wing.
Hopefully tubby will have sold the club by January & we can look forward to some serious investment.
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01 October 2017 23:36 Post ID: #483454 - in reply to #483392
Like the Spurs game, the plan that Rafa had, worked. If Shelvey had managed not to be sent off against Spurs then the result in that one would have been the same as today if not a nicked 1-0.

Knowing the sides limitations, the plan was spot on with very few chances created for them regardless of the possession stats as the shape of the side stayed solid throughout.

Allowing them the ball and to run at us on either flank, I think this was designed to tire them out and it seemed to work as Liverpool faded as the game went on.

Personally I thought Shelvey looked short of match fitness and looked off the pace so I was surprised to come home and see the reviews although his pass through to Joselu was top class and one that you thought Joselu couldn't miss as hard as he tried to though.

I also thought that Elliot's positioning for their goal was wrong as he got nowhere near it and it looked savable but overall there was no real stand out performers, just a real good solid team performance that makes you think we'll have enough to stay up.

Dont know who organised the half time penalty competition with the foreigners not understanding the meaning of getting off the pitch but it had the Sky and NUFC officials panicking a bit.
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02 October 2017 00:33 Post ID: #483456 - in reply to #483450
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Harry's Boy - 1/10/2017 18:35

Just hope Klopp and his employers were blind to Jamaal...





Apparently there's still a couple of Forest supporters out there sniggering that we signed him.

Edited by Neppos 2/10/2017 00:34
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02 October 2017 00:46 Post ID: #483457 - in reply to #483392
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Quite frankly, Lascelles is shit. Easily pushed off the ball, can’t clear his lines and is woeful with the ball at his feet. A very average clogger who has had one or two ok games. Today was not one of them.

Edited by Officemonkey 2/10/2017 00:48
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02 October 2017 01:09 Post ID: #483458 - in reply to #483392
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Thanks for the input, I think we'll all rely on Rafa's judgment to make a young, towering, dominant centre half club captain rather than the tea boy from Shields opinion

Edited by Neppos 2/10/2017 01:18
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02 October 2017 06:34 Post ID: #483460 - in reply to #483392
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And talk of him being called up for England also... rewards for having a decent start to a season I guess, mind I think the national team is short in decent centre halves.

He has been earmarked for bigger and better things throughout his career, same thing would apply for him at our club it would appear.
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02 October 2017 07:54 Post ID: #483461 - in reply to #483392
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Perez and Manquillo were poor but it was a hard earned point. Clark made a couple of Villaesque mistakes so maybe time to draft Lejeune in who is comfortable on the ball.

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02 October 2017 09:28 Post ID: #483462 - in reply to #483392
Perez looked like he was wearing slippers on a few occasions.
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