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26 September 2017 13:51 Post ID: #483357
Wey, we at least know he's not going to buy NUFC in the future.
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26 September 2017 13:59 Post ID: #483358 - in reply to #483357
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At least he didn't want to sell up to fatty.
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26 September 2017 14:02 Post ID: #483359 - in reply to #483357
Love or hate the bloke, some of the best times in our supporting life came under him
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26 September 2017 14:12 Post ID: #483360 - in reply to #483357
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I'll not speak ill of the dead, not yet anyway.

RIP The original fat controller.
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26 September 2017 14:21 Post ID: #483361 - in reply to #483357
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At least he was a local, who at least tried.

Some great football in his time.

RIP.
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26 September 2017 14:39 Post ID: #483363 - in reply to #483357
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RIP. Maybe he will leave a few grand for all of you behind a bar somewhere with a stipulation that you must sort out all your grieviences and on line quibbles face to face Queensbury rules in the pub car park.
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26 September 2017 15:28 Post ID: #483365 - in reply to #483357
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A significant part of the hierarchy that produced the best football seen at Newcastle ever.
He had his faults like everyone does But what great days the Keegan era was and the current mob are not fit to clean their boots.
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26 September 2017 15:38 Post ID: #483367 - in reply to #483357
Some context.

Under Shepherd and co, our Net transfer spend in the premier league was around £135m. That was before the big prize money, big TV and sponsorship deals and a stadium capacity for the majority capped at 36,000.

Under Ashley it is around £35m, the prize money has rocketed, TV and sponsorship is off the scale with a 52,000 capacity but we're 'skint.

The wage bill is lower now as well with our artificial turnover figure deflecting from it's actual standing.

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26 September 2017 16:18 Post ID: #483368 - in reply to #483357
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What a bizarre post on a thread about the death of someone, CM, of a club other than your own.

What goes through your mind to come out with such a comment??

While Toon fans comment about the good times, and the bad of his time at the helm; you a Wet Spam fan go on about money and violence.

Sum's up southerners in many ways. No perspective.



Edited by CuckFan 26/9/2017 16:20
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26 September 2017 16:39 Post ID: #483369 - in reply to #483368
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CuckFan - 26/9/2017 16:18

What a bizarre post on a thread about the death of someone, CM, of a club other than your own.

What goes through your mind to come out with such a comment??

While Toon fans comment about the good times, and the bad of his time at the helm; you a Wet Spam fan go on about money and violence.

Sum's up southerners in many ways. No perspective.



Point I was trying to make was that a good piss up paid for in someone's legacy to sort out all the differences and bad feelings on this forum over a few beers and have an old fashioned wake for the man. Not trying to advocate violence whatsoever. Bury the hatchet eh.
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26 September 2017 16:50 Post ID: #483370 - in reply to #483357
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RIP I will remember the better times under Freddie and NUFC in which I have to say there was many
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26 September 2017 17:13 Post ID: #483371 - in reply to #483357
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Best football I have ever seen live played under him, and Keegan.

Probably lost a load of respect when he had to sack SBR, but was not afraid to make some big decisions, and drop some big howlers as well.

Have 2 memories of him :-

1. In Monaco for the CL game, walked into a restaurant / bar for a beer, and he was in with club officials. Told the bar staff not to serve us, we were bad news, had never met the bloke before. About to walk out and 2 beers appeared courtesy of the club.

2. Playing in a Fawdington BMW day at City of Newcastle Golf Club, he was in group in front of us. Freddie was desperate at golf, for all he tried. Allowed him to get on green, 330 yards away, down wind, hit a beauty, that bounced once on the green, hit the clubhouse window, and came back into play behind green in a patch of rough. Come presentation longest drive was on 18, and some drip got awarded the longest drive. Stood up in front of 200 people, pointed me out, and said, "he hit longest drive", not him, to which compere, said, it did not end up on the fairway. Freddie, quick as a flash, asked what the prize was, "a wedge and a dozen balls", come with me he said, went into pro-shop, and he said "you got £300" to spend, Fuck them, the tight bastards he said, , chose something, a driver I think, and he did his own presentation.

None of that would happen now................
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26 September 2017 20:27 Post ID: #483374 - in reply to #483357
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RIP Freddie. Yes he fucked things up but he was one of us and genuinely wanted to win something.
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26 September 2017 20:44 Post ID: #483376 - in reply to #483357
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His decisions were often misplaced and no doubt he looked after number one, but he wanted more than survival and saw what could have been.
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26 September 2017 21:19 Post ID: #483378 - in reply to #483357
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I'm not going to change my opinion because he has passed away. I was not his biggest fan.
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26 September 2017 23:06 Post ID: #483382 - in reply to #483357
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I shall always remember him for his quote on Laurent Robert:
"You should only say good things when somebody leaves. Robert has gone. Good".
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27 September 2017 01:08 Post ID: #483383 - in reply to #483378
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Mcnamee67 - 26/9/2017 21:19

I'm not going to change my opinion because he has passed away. I was not his biggest fan.

I'll remember his quote "Geordie women are dogs".
Still better than the present incumbent tho,just.
Bit like asking how you felt when thatcher departed.
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27 September 2017 16:27 Post ID: #483388 - in reply to #483357
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Can't say that I liked Shepherd at the time. He did some stupid things - Getting caught out by The News of the Screws along with Little Hall was a classic.

But... 10 years is a long time to revise your opinion of his relationship with Newcastle United. I remember feeling a huge relief immediately after his departure. Didn't take long for that to evaporate in a decade of lies and frustration.

Have him back? Anybody?
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27 September 2017 18:19 Post ID: #483389 - in reply to #483388
I'm sorry for his family's loss .
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27 September 2017 22:53 Post ID: #483390 - in reply to #483357
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I said at the time, Harry, when the Ashley take-over was in progress = 'be careful what you wish for'.

Not one on here listened. Not one.
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27 September 2017 23:05 Post ID: #483391 - in reply to #483390
CuckFan - 27/9/2017 22:53

I said at the time, Harry, when the Ashley take-over was in progress = 'be careful what you wish for'.

Not one on here listened. Not one.


To be honest, it could so easily have went the other way if Ashley wasn't a greedy bastard.
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28 September 2017 11:14 Post ID: #483401 - in reply to #483357
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But it didn't and it won't. He's told us. It'll be an improvement if stops leeching off the club
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28 September 2017 15:05 Post ID: #483402 - in reply to #483390
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CuckFan - 27/9/2017 22:53

I said at the time, Harry, when the Ashley take-over was in progress = 'be careful what you wish for'.

Not one on here listened. Not one.


Everyone I know had reservations.
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29 September 2017 13:07 Post ID: #483408 - in reply to #483357
NUFC have announced there'll be a minute's applause on Sunday for Freddie. Probably the sensible choice as a 'silence' could easily be manipulated.
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29 September 2017 13:12 Post ID: #483409 - in reply to #483357
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He got slated something rotten, when Chairman.

Some well deserved; some not.

At least he tried, had some vision and aims at making the club as best as it could be.

He get's my respect for that.
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29 September 2017 14:25 Post ID: #483411 - in reply to #483409
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CuckFan - 29/9/2017 13:12

He got slated something rotten, when Chairman.

Some well deserved; some not.

At least he tried, had some vision and aims at making the club as best as it could be.

He get's my respect for that.


He made a canny screw out of the place as well.......
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29 September 2017 14:30 Post ID: #483412 - in reply to #483357
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He did, and he was far from being a saint too.......but he tried to get the football right as well. Not always correct in his decision making, but he wasn't always far off.
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30 September 2017 07:38 Post ID: #483423 - in reply to #483357
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He was a fan and football man, something Ashley is not.
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30 September 2017 11:33 Post ID: #483427 - in reply to #483357
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The bloke was a twat and the majority hated him for the way he ran NUFC. It’s sad to hear about anyone passing away but let’s not make him out to be some saint just because Ashley turned out to be a whole lot worse.
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30 September 2017 19:00 Post ID: #483439 - in reply to #483357
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The Times obituary notices had a column about his time at Newcastle. Here's part of it:
Freddy Shepherd believed he would lead Newcastle United to greatness. Instead, he failed the club on several counts, and his stewardship will be for ever associated with a tabloid sting in what was allegedly a Spanish brothel.

Shepherd was asked to go to Spain in 1998 with Douglas Hall, son of the club’s owner, Sir John Hall, to meet a businessman seeking to fund a foreign team. The businessman was, in fact, the News of the World’s “Fake Sheikh”, Mazher Mahmood, who led them on a trawl of Marbella’s less salubrious joints, which ended up at a club called MiLady Palace, where women in various states of undress stood at the bar.

“I like blondes, big bust, good legs,” Shepherd announced. “I don’t like coloured girls. I want a lesbian show with handcuffs.” Geordie women, the pair told Mahmood, were “dogs”, while they disparaged Newcastle United heroes, such as Kevin Keegan, who had given up the managership the year before. “Keegan has a halo like a saint, no vices like us,” said Shepherd. “We used to call Keegan ‘Shirley Temple’.”

Another club legend was Alan Shearer, the Geordie boy whose goals were helping to keep the club near the top of the Premier League. “Shearer is boring,” Shepherd said. “We call him Mary Poppins. He never gets into trouble.”

Newcastle fans didn’t fare much better. “We like our fans to get drunk because we own the bars where they drink,” Shepherd said. The fans were mugs, he said, for buying £50 replica shirts that cost £5 to make in Asia.

Shepherd and Hall issued apologies and resigned from the board, but remained shareholders. Less than a year later they voted themselves back into office, leading to the resignation of other board members. By the time he left the chairmanship in 2007, Shepherd was a tainted figure, but not just for his Spanish exploits. He had appointed and sacked a succession of managers, and during his tenure the club twice finished runners-up in the Premier League, but when he left, the sense remained of a club who perennially underachieved.

After hiring and firing more managers, Shepherd decided in 1999 that Sir Bobby Robson, who had a distinguished international managerial career behind him, would be perfect for the role, and so he proved to be, for a time. Shepherd praised Robson generously at times, but there was constant tension between the two men. The final breach began in summer 2004 when Shepherd told a journalist that Robson would not be staying beyond the end of the next season.

In the event Robson was sacked after just a few games of the new season, leaving the former England manager “deeply aggrieved”. Shepherd later said that sacking Robson was the hardest thing he had ever done: “I didn’t want to be known as the man who shot Bambi.”

Further years of turbulence ensued as other managers came and went, and the club became a byword for instability. Shepherd’s claims that the club remained a significant force sounded increasingly hollow, and his attempt to sign the brilliant young Everton player Wayne Rooney was seen as characteristically deluded.

When the club was caught up in the murky world of investigations into illegal payments over transfers, and was raided by police investigators, there was criticism of the extent to which the Shepherd family had prospered from its stake in it.



Edited by Mcnamee67 30/9/2017 19:02
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30 September 2017 22:25 Post ID: #483440 - in reply to #483357
As mentioned above, the fact that Shepherd's 'stock' has risen on the back of the last 10 years or so, just shows you how bad the Ashley years have been.
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