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Souness. Cock-end.
24 August 2017 09:48 Post ID: #482537
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Face it, Graeme - you couldn't handle the role as Newcastle manager. Same when at Liverpool.

In fact, you only ever succeeded as manager, when in a country whose top flight only has two serious entities, thus, sooner or later you were bound to win something.

Also, I've never come across such a hypocritical wanker within the game - when you condemn players for fouling/stamping on others, when that is EXACTLY how you played your game throughout your career.

Have another stroke, you utter arsehole.
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24 August 2017 10:12 Post ID: #482538 - in reply to #482537
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Even Liverpool fans hated him as a manager and he was some player for them, in short, shite manager at whatever club he's been.
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24 August 2017 10:41 Post ID: #482540 - in reply to #482537
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Souness is indeed a cunt but stating you hope he has a stroke shows your true colours Cockfan,you really are a bitter little man.
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24 August 2017 10:43 Post ID: #482541 - in reply to #482537
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And, he brought that little Welsh tart, Owen, to the club.
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24 August 2017 11:42 Post ID: #482544 - in reply to #482537
Souness was an incredible player, anyone who didn't see him in his pomp missed a behemoth of midfield. His time as a manager with Liverpool now viewed through the scope of hindsight and Liverpool's relative struggles since wasn't that bad. In 91-92 they were very much in the title race before fading badly to sixth . He won the Fa Cup and oversaw the bringing through of several of the club's promising youngsters in Fowler and McManaman as he tried to overhaul an aging squad. What really did for Souness was giving an exclusive to The Sun following his heart operation, I don't know if it was a chronic lack of awareness or an arrogance but as soon as he did that it was just a matter of time.

Here he was an appalling failure. A manager who couldn't manage situations or players and never has a man who prided himself on his strength looked so weak . His reign just brought into sharper focus the talents of Bobby Robson. There was none of the knowledge, patience or finesse that Bobby possessed and we saw a great young side torn to bits by a weak egotist. How the Stevens report failed to find any real failings or corruption in the Boumsong deal is one of the great mysteries of Newcastle United's history .

As an analyst I don't mind him . He's always been very complimentary about us as a support whilst also mentioning the pressure we can bring (which I think is fair comment, sadly we don't bring it anymore and certainly not to the right people but that's another point entirely). He talks a good game just a shame he couldn't get his side to play one.

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24 August 2017 11:54 Post ID: #482545 - in reply to #482537
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Superb player in his day, would be worth a kings ransom in todays market. Cuckfan you go further down in my estimation, which is quite a feat given where you already were. What kind of a man wishes a stroke on another?
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24 August 2017 12:10 Post ID: #482547 - in reply to #482537
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Truly a great player. Excelled at a time when aggression was a valuable asset. However, on the ball a genuinely creative player. The passes he could deliver to split defences and create chances were a joy to behold. He was a truly horrible manager for us, though.
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24 August 2017 12:18 Post ID: #482550 - in reply to #482545
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crooktownmags - 24/8/2017 11:54

What kind of a man wishes a stroke on another?


The same as one who makes a joke about the passing of someone's grandfather or wishes rape upon family members.
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24 August 2017 13:21 Post ID: #482553 - in reply to #482537
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We ought to be careful mate, he has trolled...sorry fought, I meant fought..... for his country in battle. In battle no less. He doesn't like to talk about it mind.
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24 August 2017 13:46 Post ID: #482555 - in reply to #482537
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The only army cock has been in is the toon army.
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24 August 2017 16:10 Post ID: #482557 - in reply to #482537
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Exactly the kind of player we need right this minute.
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24 August 2017 17:30 Post ID: #482563 - in reply to #482537
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If he knows so much about management in the English top flight, how come he dismantled a winning Liverpool club, that they have even now failed to recover from - and - almost took us down the season he bought the dwarf=England-only scrote, and the other clowns he bought for a fuck of a lot of money?

Can't believe a word the scumbag says.
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24 August 2017 20:19 Post ID: #482568 - in reply to #482537
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Not many class players have turned out to be class managers. can someone tell me which class players have gone on to be a class manager especially British i mean.
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24 August 2017 21:30 Post ID: #482569 - in reply to #482568
Brian Clough , Kevin Keegan , Kenny Dalglish , Bobby Robson .
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24 August 2017 21:46 Post ID: #482570 - in reply to #482537
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I wouldn't say Keegan/Dalglish were class managers mate class players yes but not managers.Im on about someone that has won things as a manager at different clubs. like i say anyone can win things if you have a world class squad, but give them an ordinary squad then you will see their true managerial class.
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24 August 2017 22:32 Post ID: #482572 - in reply to #482569
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keggy_keagal - 24/8/2017 21:30

Brian Clough , Kevin Keegan , Kenny Dalglish , Bobby Robson .


Dalglish inherited Joe Fagans/Paisleys Liverpool, won at Blackburn with more money than Chelsea, but playing god awful football and dismantled the best English football side in years within months. Keegan never won anything. Robson and Clough I'll give you, despite Clough being an arrogant mackem fuck, brilliant footballer and manager it pains me to say'. Sir Bob the best of the lot, a gent, a class act.
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24 August 2017 22:35 Post ID: #482573 - in reply to #482570
billybobcat - 24/8/2017 21:46

I wouldn't say Keegan/Dalglish were class managers mate class players yes but not managers.Im on about someone that has won things as a manager at different clubs. like i say anyone can win things if you have a world class squad, but give them an ordinary squad then you will see their true managerial class.


Both won things at different clubs .

Dalglish:


Managerial honours
Liverpool
Football League First Division (3): 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90
FA Cup (2): 1985–86, 1988–89
League Cup (1): 2011–12
Super Cup (1): 1986–87
FA Charity Shield (4): 1986,[91] 1988,[92] 1989,[93] 1990[94]
Blackburn Rovers[86]
Premier League (1): 1994–95
Football League Second Division Play Off Winners (1): 1991–92
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Scottish League Cup (1): 1999–2000

Kevin Keegan

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Premier League; Runner-up: 1995–96, 1996–97
Football League Division One: 1992–93
Fulham
Football League Second Division: 1998–99
Manchester City
Football League Division One: 2001–0
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24 August 2017 22:54 Post ID: #482575 - in reply to #482537
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Fuck off man, Keegan never won anything, that's why we're called delusional, you may as well shove Pards Johnstons paints nonsense on that 'nearly' honours list.
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25 August 2017 11:21 Post ID: #482585 - in reply to #482537
Keegan's won the Championship 3 times with three different clubs. Now fair enough it's not a top level title but that's an achievement . The original point was not many class players have turned out to be class managers. If that doesn't show you he can manage an ordinary squad I'm not sure what does.

As for Dalglish's achievements they're still his achievements. Moyes inherited Ferguson's squad and look what happened there .Kenny won the title 3 years on the trot (one of those being a double) , then transformed Blackburn, failed here , but even in recent years won Liverpool their last trophy .
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25 August 2017 19:14 Post ID: #482622 - in reply to #482537
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For what it is worth I think Dalglish should have been given more time.
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25 August 2017 19:24 Post ID: #482623 - in reply to #482622
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crooktownmags - 25/8/2017 19:14

For what it is worth I think Dalglish should have been given more time.


In Parkhurst....the dour Cunt.
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25 August 2017 19:40 Post ID: #482624 - in reply to #482537
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Strange appointment, Dalglish - especially directly after Keegan.

A vastly different type of manager, for which it was clear he'd need a completely different 'tool set' of players, in which to work. Thus, would take time and a lot of money - albeit he would have made a lot of money from existing players.

Agree with the time required element, for him to become anywhere near 'successful'.
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26 August 2017 00:40 Post ID: #482636 - in reply to #482585
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keggy_keagal - 25/8/2017 11:21

Keegan's won the Championship 3 times with three different clubs. Now fair enough it's not a top level title but that's an achievement . The original point was not many class players have turned out to be class managers. If that doesn't show you he can manage an ordinary squad I'm not sure what does.


In no way trying to belittle what Keegan achieved as manager with us, he took us from the brink of Division 3 to the brink of the Premier League title. Just to make that clear.

However, he didn't win the Championship with 3 different clubs, he won League 1 with Fulham (with Al Fayed's money). Tigana took them from Championship to PL.

He won the Championship with us having inherited decent players like Kelly and Peacock and being allowed to add proven top flight performers like Kilcline, Bracewell, Venison, Sheedy and Beresford. Three of those had previously won League titles. It was hardly a level playing field with the opposition. And he had the luxury of adding a certain A Cole half way through the season. Anything less than winning that league would have been criminal.

I don't know the details of his time at Man City but suspect it was a similar mis match against their rivals.

His biggest achievement for me was finishing third in 1994, followed by THAT season in 95/96. The promotions were and should have been a gimme, the following seasons not so much.
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26 August 2017 11:04 Post ID: #482641 - in reply to #482550
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Officemonkey - 24/8/2017 12:18

crooktownmags - 24/8/2017 11:54

What kind of a man wishes a stroke on another?


The same as one who makes a joke about the passing of someone's grandfather or wishes rape upon family members.


When I read that I picture you heroically riding in to the forum on a white horse, wearing an all white cowboy outfit....mind you the horse and clothing are stolen and you're as drunk as a Lord.
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26 August 2017 11:10 Post ID: #482643 - in reply to #482537
I stand corrected . You're quite right on Keegan with Fulham .
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26 August 2017 13:22 Post ID: #482648 - in reply to #482537
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Again, completely out of context. You really cannot wait to twist, can you, tea-boy?

Was it his grand-father?? No. I was explicit.

Did I wish rape?? No. I expressed someone would feel different, had it been a member of his own family.

You are a liar, tea-boy. And a coward. With a fat-ugly lass as your bird.

Souness? Yup. I wish the evil cunt all the ills of this world; for his past behaviour on the pitch to his oppenents; and for his management of our football club.

Clear?

Edited by CuckFan 26/8/2017 13:24
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26 August 2017 16:57 Post ID: #482703 - in reply to #482537
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You really are tragic.
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26 August 2017 16:59 Post ID: #482705 - in reply to #482537
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He has more threads than the spinning jenny.
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27 August 2017 10:20 Post ID: #482727 - in reply to #482569
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keggy_keagal - 24/8/2017 21:30

Brian Clough , Kevin Keegan , Kenny Dalglish , Bobby Robson .


I know they aren't British but you could mention Guardiola and Cryuff too. Pochetino and Koeman both very decent players who look to be on the same track in management.

Edited by carlosvendetta 27/8/2017 10:23
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