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16 June 2017 18:47 Post ID: #480445
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Can fuck off to Brighton for me, nothing special on todays showing.
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16 June 2017 22:43 Post ID: #480462 - in reply to #480445
The hold up in him joining us is supposedly because an additional £1m fee was added on for the player and agent fees.
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16 June 2017 23:35 Post ID: #480466 - in reply to #480445
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So what's the holdup?
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16 June 2017 23:42 Post ID: #480467 - in reply to #480466
Officemonkey - 16/6/2017 23:35

So what's the holdup?


Supposedly after all fees were agreed, an extra £1m was wanted. The official word is that Abraham isn't making his mind up until after the U21 championships but if the payment is true then it explains it a little especially if he's just a loan.
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17 June 2017 10:47 Post ID: #480474 - in reply to #480445
We're doing the usual, the fees have been clear from the start, we're going in with a lower offer .
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17 June 2017 14:55 Post ID: #480480 - in reply to #480445
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Has a girls name anyway.
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17 June 2017 15:02 Post ID: #480482 - in reply to #480445
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according to the papers its chelsea moving the goal posts, if he is delaying and weighing up his options etc fair play to him, i guess since he has been born we are an underachieving club.... if he were to look at history books and wanted to be a centre forward at a club who loves a good one he would jump at the opportunity. If he is dragging his feet he can go forth and multiply as far as i am concerned.
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17 June 2017 15:32 Post ID: #480483 - in reply to #480445
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He's just probably pre-occupied with his mind elsewhere at the moment.

And his next decision is an important one for his future career.

If he thinks he needs time, he should be given it.
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17 June 2017 16:18 Post ID: #480484 - in reply to #480445
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aye, a bit like pickford ?
sorry .its not a hard decision, he wont play for his parent club, he will go on loan. Does he want to play for 1 of 3 clubs ? Hull just relegated and back in the league he has just played in or Brighton where things seem to be in order or us, in fromt of hge crowds with a world class manager (not in everyones eyes granted) but he is
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17 June 2017 16:43 Post ID: #480485 - in reply to #480445
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Either way, 1m is small fry in this day and age (football world that is) and yet again SDU will piss fart about.
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17 June 2017 16:52 Post ID: #480487 - in reply to #480445
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He should jump at the chance of working with a world class manager like rafa .
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18 June 2017 00:31 Post ID: #480492 - in reply to #480445
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He may also have half a brain and consider the formations each manager works to.

If Gayle is Rafa's chosen one, he may be thinking spending a lot of time on our bench ain't for him at this stage of his career.

Two up front elsewhere may just suit him fine.
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18 June 2017 10:33 Post ID: #480493 - in reply to #480445
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Rafa has (so far) chosen to play one up front both home and away. As has been pointed out, that would limit his game time.

Gayle will be 1st choice. Even with his hamstring likely to be a problem for half of the campaign.

Tammy has an important decision to make, and is right if he is deciding to take his time about it.

His decision will also need to be taken soon though, as Rafa will want most players in before pre-season starts.

He has a LOT of work to do in this.
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18 June 2017 11:43 Post ID: #480494 - in reply to #480493
Which club has a history (documented by former managers) under Ashley of not offering the fee that the selling club has declared ? Which club has a partnership with a group of newspapers to spin the propaganda however they see fit ?

It's simple , Rafa's spoken to Emelano , there was a fee agreed to take Abraham , Rafa told board, we haven't met it . See failing to sign Modric and Hypia and countless others .

Edited by keggy_keagal 18/6/2017 11:44
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18 June 2017 11:57 Post ID: #480495 - in reply to #480445
Ashley was supposedly up here before with his helicopter spotted. Dont know if that means he's signed some paperwork to sort some deals or just emptied the gas meter.

You would think that things will start to move in the next week or so as training is starting in the next two weeks.
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18 June 2017 14:30 Post ID: #480498 - in reply to #480494
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keggy_keagal - 18/6/2017 11:43

Which club has a history (documented by former managers) under Ashley of not offering the fee that the selling club has declared ? Which club has a partnership with a group of newspapers to spin the propaganda however they see fit ?

It's simple , Rafa's spoken to Emelano , there was a fee agreed to take Abraham , Rafa told board, we haven't met it . See failing to sign Modric and Hypia and countless others .


I've got to admit i'm conflicted keggy.

Do I enjoy the cynical wit in your posts,or ironically question your negativity and perception regarding rafa's failure to land TA ?


Either way it's business as usual for Ashley,
as far as am aware, Atsu, (not good enough)is the only signing on the football side so far,and Justin Barnes on the henchmen side.

If rafa doesn't smell a rat by now he must be nose blind.

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19 June 2017 01:38 Post ID: #480505 - in reply to #480445
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In Rafa we trust though...

If Abraham (Who?!) has his doubts then what does that say for proper footballers? Everton and Leicester have just splashed the cash on two targets well within the price range and Everton are currently going after Sandro too. Another you'd think King Benitez who can do no wrong would be after.

The suckers just keep on sucking though. Badge of honour for Eaststand.
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19 June 2017 15:15 Post ID: #480513 - in reply to #480445
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Some good points above but my point was that he is average (at best) at under 21 level. Like a poor mans Leon Best. He may improve, granted. But we shouldn't be a feeder club for Chelsea. You hear all this paper talk about where he is going but watch him play and the hype dissolves. I will be amazed if Rafa really wants the kid.
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20 June 2017 11:33 Post ID: #480525 - in reply to #480445
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I'm sick of this arrogant egotistical dick already.
Let him fuck off elsewhere at some inflated wage he doesn't deserve
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20 June 2017 11:33 Post ID: #480526 - in reply to #480445
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Tammy Whingette
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20 June 2017 21:18 Post ID: #480540 - in reply to #480445
Thread over then. Looks like he's off to Swansea.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/swansea-city-w...

Was never going to be a starter for us anyway but could have been ok from the bench.
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20 June 2017 22:38 Post ID: #480543 - in reply to #480445
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Another one bites the dust...
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20 June 2017 22:47 Post ID: #480544 - in reply to #480445
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Reminds me of a line in an old Marvin Gaye song. 'Has anybody here seen my old friend Abraham'
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20 June 2017 22:48 Post ID: #480545 - in reply to #480543
Officemonkey - 20/6/2017 22:38

Another one bites the dust...


Mangala looks like he's joining Lyon as well..
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20 June 2017 23:07 Post ID: #480546 - in reply to #480445
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Both must have wanted wages.

That line is proving elusive to reach, let alone cross.
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20 June 2017 23:11 Post ID: #480547 - in reply to #480546
Officemonkey - 20/6/2017 23:07

Both must have wanted wages.

That line is proving elusive to reach, let alone cross.


I dont think anyone knows who we're after to be honest. We may well have had some interest in Abraham but he may not have been our first choice and things could have progressed elsewhere.

Fair enough we've history to go by and I dont think our thought pattern will change as long as Ashley is here but he knows the risks with not speculating to accumulate, so money will be spent and now is not the time to panic.

I still think we'll have a couple in by the end of next week minimum.
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21 June 2017 16:59 Post ID: #480550 - in reply to #480445
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While I'm not that fussy one way or the other with this fella, it is tine the club got its skates on to deal with the lack of goal threat we have,

Training for the coming season starts soon, and Rafa could do with the majority of his signings being in, from the off.
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21 June 2017 17:24 Post ID: #480551 - in reply to #480544
Mcnamee67 - 20/6/2017 22:47

Reminds me of a line in an old Marvin Gaye song. 'Has anybody here seen my old friend Abraham'


So long as we don't sign Alvin Martin and Stern John .
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21 June 2017 20:42 Post ID: #480552 - in reply to #480445
Aside from what was a deal for the future in Perez back on June 5th 2014, this season has matched the earliest in which we've struck a deal with Atsu by getting Cabaye confirmed on June 10th 2011.

Last season saw Rafa get Sels at the end of June but in every other season under Ashley we've had our first signing four times in July, the loan deal for Remy at the beginning of August and the last time we got promoted our first signing didn't come until mid August with Danny Simpson.

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22 June 2017 06:46 Post ID: #480559 - in reply to #480445
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Rafa will want a (virtually) full deck of cards, before they get dealt.

He's ahead of the game, not like the others who have suffered from 'the tail wagging the dog' in previous managers,
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22 June 2017 08:52 Post ID: #480562 - in reply to #480445
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"Last season saw Rafa get Sels at the end of June"

And what a rip roaring success that signing has been.
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22 June 2017 10:59 Post ID: #480565 - in reply to #480445
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'Keepers especially, don't hit it off first season.

Look at De Gayer - he was awful 1st season for Manure.
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22 June 2017 11:25 Post ID: #480566 - in reply to #480445
Signings are never guaranteed to be a success but with Sels loan back to Belgium just waiting for confirmation, it shows that Rafa isn't in the Pardew mould of persisting with something until it pays dividends once as some sort of personal 'I told you so'

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22 June 2017 14:06 Post ID: #480569 - in reply to #480445
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He's in the mould of buying crap.
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