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25 April 2017 15:01 Post ID: #479299
Been thinking for a few months now that Ashley never knows his luck as he always seems to manage to get some and with the association of Rafa, it has increased it ten fold.

With the hidden value of NUFC to Ashley missed by so many and not questioned by others, the fact that we haven't been in the shop window of the premier league will have hurt him for different reasons than ours. The amount of money lost to the club must surely be dwarfed by his potential loss of income by his diversion schemes and lost foreign customer.

Anyway to stop this from being the usual ramble, the thought occurred that this may be his best time to sell. Maybe his last chance.

We've all speculated that we need the budget of a sovereign state to compete to target mid table in the premier and it may be ironic that he sells to the first one that offers his asking price. £400m would be nowt to one of those when the kitty goes up £100m a season.

Just got to speculate to accumulate and thats something that Ashley hasn't done yet. If we go down again then there is a distinct lack of messiahs to bail us out next time and aside from a massive drop in company worth, the future could see a complete implosion.

Anyway, if there's no stories out there already, expect some over the coming weeks.
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25 April 2017 15:28 Post ID: #479300 - in reply to #479299
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So there's no actual rumour aside from this one you've just started, thanks for that.
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25 April 2017 15:32 Post ID: #479301 - in reply to #479300
Paul Kannell - 25/4/2017 15:28

So there's no actual rumour aside from this one you've just started, thanks for that.


Oh....... wait...

I may have missed The Mackem that thinks she knows more about NUFC than many have her say.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/apr/25/newcastle-prem...
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25 April 2017 15:40 Post ID: #479303 - in reply to #479299
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He's not going to sell,
With all that free sky lolly,advertisement and a 52,000 crowd why would he ?

As for a messiah,we were told he wouldn't find one if we got rid of Pardew .

Money talks,ask raffa.
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25 April 2017 16:24 Post ID: #479311 - in reply to #479299
There's been interest for a while from a few parties. You cannot buy what isn't for sale however.
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25 April 2017 16:50 Post ID: #479312 - in reply to #479299
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Now all this speculation re Raffa, will he stay or will he go etc, someone on here posted that it was common knowledge inside the club he was away. Is this still the case? If it is then i applaud the man, stuck with us to see the job through and i put that firmly down to the affection he received from the fans and the everyday person he met/encountered. He could have left in Jan if things were not what it said on the tin re his contract neogotiations.
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25 April 2017 18:23 Post ID: #479313 - in reply to #479299
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I very much doubt he is staying after that post match interview. I wonder what parses is doing
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25 April 2017 19:06 Post ID: #479316 - in reply to #479299
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teeing up the boro job
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25 April 2017 19:10 Post ID: #479317 - in reply to #479299
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Bloody hell don't you think they have suffered enough ??
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25 April 2017 19:18 Post ID: #479318 - in reply to #479312
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The Pyrry - 25/4/2017 16:50

Now all this speculation re Raffa, will he stay or will he go etc, someone on here posted that it was common knowledge inside the club he was away. Is this still the case? If it is then i applaud the man, stuck with us to see the job through and i put that firmly down to the affection he received from the fans and the everyday person he met/encountered. He could have left in Jan if things were not what it said on the tin re his contract neogotiations.



He chose to work for a despot of a businessman pyrry ,i'm baffled why people ignore that.

The point you make about January is very interesting also,it was widely believed that he would stand for no nonsense from Ashley whatsoever, yet when he was asked if he still had the final say on transfers, Benitez stated...

“It doesn’t change anything. It’s a tricky question.

“The final say is something simple to say, what I need is to have the list of players we want to sign. It’s not a problem.

“We are working very hard and hopefully we will sign what we need and hopefully we will get what we need.”

I'm still trying to work out wtf he was on about.


The simple fact is that he knew who he was going to work for and his weak response to Ashley's blatant attack regarding his spending, suggests he does not have that fabled watertight contract.

I guarantee you he will walk away with a massive wad of cash when he does leave though,his lawyers will have that part of his contract absolutely watertight.

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25 April 2017 19:36 Post ID: #479320 - in reply to #479299
I just dont understand your 'hate' towards Benitez, PieMag. Fair enough, you can understand the Mackems will be having their say but for us, there's absolutely nowt to lose in climbing on board.

If anything it may stir up a bit of rage for those that live and breathe it but for those of us who just follow the interests, this is an enjoyable change from the norm. A time to indulge on some positivity.

Cant go around worrying about what may happen because 99.9% it doesn't.

As for Rafa's words, I read them the same way I read them when he signed. It was the media that made out a big thing about final say and he paid caution to the wording of it. Instead saying that it was a team effort with him having the choice of signings.

Anyway, final say is the call Ashley or one of his cohorts will do when they want to trump one of our own bids.
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25 April 2017 19:36 Post ID: #479321 - in reply to #479299
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Aye Pie his statement does seem all over the parish and hard to make sense of, but i honestly believe he had his nose put out of joint and is only staying because of how much he has been welcomed up here.
I dont blame the man for leaving with a wad full of cash, he has fulfilled his end of the bargin in delivering the club/city back to the promised land. He is widely accepted as a top class manager by his counterparts, and stuck his neck on the line (professionally) staking his reputation by staying with us. He has dropped into the championship and worked with a set of players less skillful than he normally is accustomed to and successfully got out of a notoriously difficult league at the first attempt. Money well spent, and i would like him to stay..... yes his style of football is less that i expected but its not the worst we have seen, we dont get taken to the cleaners and spanked that often. IF he stays and is backed he knows the premiership and knows what is required, a massive overhaul if you ask me with only a handful staying.
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25 April 2017 22:02 Post ID: #479325 - in reply to #479320
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 25/4/2017 19:36

I just dont understand your 'hate' towards Benitez, PieMag.


No hate at all toony.

Just amazed at how easily people are taken in.

It's simple, Benitez has no more power than Pardew had.

All this raffaloution nonsense is a con,and a bloody obvious one.

Ashley is running the show and will continue to do so until he has nothing to gain from being here.

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25 April 2017 22:51 Post ID: #479326 - in reply to #479325
PieMag - 25/4/2017 22:02

Toon_NoMatterWot - 25/4/2017 19:36

I just dont understand your 'hate' towards Benitez, PieMag.


No hate at all toony.

Just amazed at how easily people are taken in.

It's simple, Benitez has no more power than Pardew had.

All this raffaloution nonsense is a con,and a bloody obvious one.

Ashley is running the show and will continue to do so until he has nothing to gain from being here.



Even if the power bit was true then I dont think many would be the slightest bit bothered anyway. The difference between Rafa and Pardew is so far that it may as well be comparing white to black. There's no comparison.

Pardew wasn't hated for where he came from or his pedigree really but everything his personality stood for and the fact he was a major cog in spouting the utter shite that he did. That part of the job was his fault alone not to mention that he had a smugness in being part of the show. He was untrustworthy.

Rafa is the opposite and it's no wonder his aura has attracted the adulation. This is no deliberate ploy by the regime, it's part luck and part accident but we'll see how this pans out.

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25 April 2017 23:44 Post ID: #479327 - in reply to #479326
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 25/4/2017 22:51




Even if the power bit was true then I dont think many would be the slightest bit bothered anyway. The difference between Rafa and Pardew is so far that it may as well be comparing white to black. There's no comparison.

Pardew wasn't hated for where he came from or his pedigree really but everything his personality stood for and the fact he was a major cog in spouting the utter shite that he did. That part of the job was his fault alone not to mention that he had a smugness in being part of the show. He was untrustworthy.

Rafa is the opposite and it's no wonder his aura has attracted the adulation. This is no deliberate ploy by the regime, it's part luck and part accident but we'll see how this pans out.



The power bit is absolutely true, you read what Ashley had to say about Benitez buying older players.
Shame on those who are not bothered by that.

Benitez and Pardew are exactly the same,they were employed to prop up Ashley's regime,that's what Pardew did,and that's exactly what rafa is doing now,that is just a plain fact..

Pardew maybe smug and Benitez may be humble but they both share a willingness to work for a crook.

Is it possible the aura you feel is actually desperation ?

Four of his last five clubs did not feel it,and not all Liverpool supporters either.

Are they all wrong ?

I'm not sure about your last point,are you saying Ashley found Benitez by a lucky accident and was totally unaware of how the fans would react to his appointment ?


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26 April 2017 16:36 Post ID: #479359 - in reply to #479299
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There is a small piece in the guardian about a a rumoured Qatar and a Chinese interest

Just rumours I guess

A Quatar buy would make sense because of the World Cup and our potential - I repeat though this is just from the guardian and nothing more
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26 April 2017 16:56 Post ID: #479361 - in reply to #479359
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Jackals Tooth - 26/4/2017 16:36

There is a small piece in the guardian about a a rumoured Qatar and a Chinese interest

Just rumours I guess

A Quatar buy would make sense because of the World Cup and our potential - I repeat though this is just from the guardian and nothing more


My well placed source backs up the Quatar bid, TNMW knows who we are talking about....
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26 April 2017 17:33 Post ID: #479362 - in reply to #479299
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I see charnley is in the shit the taxman raided the club along with west hams HAHAHA

Edited by billybobcat 26/4/2017 17:34
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26 April 2017 18:04 Post ID: #479363 - in reply to #479362
billybobcat - 26/4/2017 17:33

I see charnley is in the shit the taxman raided the club along with west hams HAHAHA


Give it a couple of weeks and they'll all have been raided. There's been about 5 or 6 done so far.
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26 April 2017 18:17 Post ID: #479365 - in reply to #479299
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Regarding him selling toony you know its just pie in the sky why the hell would he, he will make a fortune even if they are relegated again. it would be the best news in newcastle united's history if the fat fucker sold up, but sadly he wont.
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26 April 2017 20:31 Post ID: #479375 - in reply to #479299
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You wonder if he might sell up with all the crap going on - he has lost no 1 status to JD Sports also

Maybe all the bad press is having an effect on business
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26 April 2017 22:15 Post ID: #479380 - in reply to #479365
billybobcat - 26/4/2017 18:17

Regarding him selling toony you know its just pie in the sky why the hell would he, he will make a fortune even if they are relegated again. it would be the best news in newcastle united's history if the fat fucker sold up, but sadly he wont.


I agree with you but he's so unpredictable in a more unstable business world.

A club seemingly on the up if you ignore today's curveball with the promise of only one year's worth of premier league funds to come but armed with the knowledge that you have to spend top whack to be in with a chance of continuing to the next year's loot.

The worth of the free advertising must surely be wearing even more thin now as we all know his brand is associated with us and as for making a fortune, he can only divert so much.

We know he's had all of his investment back and more with the asking price just pure profit. The next accounts will show a loss but even if we spend the £70m+ to strengthen this year, we'll have to do it year on year to improve to keep away from the trap door which leaves profit margins slim.

I reckon if he was offered £350m+ then he'd snap the hands off and based on varying factors, he may just get that. Im like you though, I feel like we're stuck with him for life although he may not get a better time than now to get shot.
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27 April 2017 06:08 Post ID: #479383 - in reply to #479299
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The club isn't worth £350m mate that's why he won't sell because I can't see anyone offering that amount.
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27 April 2017 07:27 Post ID: #479384 - in reply to #479383
billybobcat - 27/4/2017 06:08

The club isn't worth £350m mate that's why he won't sell because I can't see anyone offering that amount.


You'll be surprised who would, the same as you'll be surprised to find out that he's turned down bids in the past.

Probably a case of them being at the wrong time but there has to come a point when it is the right time and for me, this is one of those.
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27 April 2017 08:35 Post ID: #479385 - in reply to #479359
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Rumour in the Guardian ? The Guardian tells more lies and bullshit than the Daily Mail and Sun - and thats saying something
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27 April 2017 09:56 Post ID: #479386 - in reply to #479299
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This tax evasion investigation could be the best thing to happen to us if proven guilty, the penalty would have to be at least a demotion to league 1 for Ashley to sell mind. The championship would still generate enough free advertising for him to hold on to the club. Demotion to league one or two would be a fitting end to that pricks inept involvement in football.

Edited by Paul Kannell 27/4/2017 11:13
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27 April 2017 10:05 Post ID: #479387 - in reply to #479386
Paul Kannell - 27/4/2017 09:56

This tax evasion investigation could be the best thing to happen to us if proven guilty, the penalty would have to be at least a demotion to league 1 for Ashley to sell mind. The championship would still generate enough free advertising for him to hold in. Demotion to league one or two would be a fitting end to that pricks inept involvement in football.


We wont get relegated on the back of it though.

No footballing rules have been broken as far as im aware and it's only an issue with the tax people.
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27 April 2017 11:22 Post ID: #479388 - in reply to #479299
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None of us have a clue what the club has done yet, one of these days we may get a respectable decent owner who doesn't constantly bring shame to the club. From Fat Fred to this slimey twat, I'm just bored of it all, be nice to be talked about for our football for a change, but I guess that's just a pipe dream.
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27 April 2017 12:13 Post ID: #479389 - in reply to #479299
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A respectable decent owner? There aint many of those about mate. Don't build your hopes up on that one. I can't see anything out of the tax inquiry either. It will no doubt be a case which will drag on for years and I don't see how the premier league could deny us entry unless they also hoy West Ham and perhaps Chelsea out. Plus no doubt numerous others as the truth emerges. Its obvious there have been dodgy dealings in football transfers for as long as there has been football transfers.
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12 June 2017 17:58 Post ID: #480387 - in reply to #479299
and just like that, another takeover or takeaway is ready to hit the news. A Chinese one at that.

One of these days one of these rumours will be true.
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12 June 2017 18:03 Post ID: #480388 - in reply to #479299
Sky reckon Ashley is considering all his options as well. Do people not learn to trust nowt until anything's confirmed as it could be an excuse not to spend as much cash as needed to stand still.
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12 June 2017 18:37 Post ID: #480389 - in reply to #480388
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 12/6/2017 18:03

Sky reckon Ashley is considering all his options as well. Do people not learn to trust nowt until anything's confirmed as it could be an excuse not to spend as much cash as needed to stand still.

That's exactly how most see it
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12 June 2017 18:53 Post ID: #480390 - in reply to #479299
The usual ITK's reckon this is different than before and Ashley is seriously considering shipping out. Probably hoping to get out before the massive tax bill.
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12 June 2017 19:49 Post ID: #480392 - in reply to #480390
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 12/6/2017 18:53

The usual ITK's reckon this is different than before and Ashley is seriously considering shipping out. Probably hoping to get out before the massive tax bill.


Take you back to my post on 26.4.17 TNMW, and who said it.

Bulletproof source.
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12 June 2017 20:09 Post ID: #480393 - in reply to #480392
daftladguy - 12/6/2017 19:49

Toon_NoMatterWot - 12/6/2017 18:53

The usual ITK's reckon this is different than before and Ashley is seriously considering shipping out. Probably hoping to get out before the massive tax bill.


Take you back to my post on 26.4.17 TNMW, and who said it.

Bulletproof source.


You did, that's one thing I do remember.

Craig Hope in The Daily Mail has a bit extra in that there could be a partial stake sold or the full works.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4597240/Newcastle...
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12 June 2017 20:16 Post ID: #480394 - in reply to #479299
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Would be so funny if the lot who were going to do the Sunlin takeover, have got cold feet, and decided to take over NUFc instead. How much would I laugh!!!!
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12 June 2017 20:20 Post ID: #480395 - in reply to #480394
daftladguy - 12/6/2017 20:16

Would be so funny if the lot who were going to do the Sunlin takeover, have got cold feet, and decided to take over NUFc instead. How much would I laugh!!!!


I thought they had Germans interested in them although all that has been said over our interest is that there is a Chinese lot amongst it so you could be right.
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12 June 2017 21:06 Post ID: #480396 - in reply to #479299
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I can't see any reasons why he'd want to sell now - the revenue stream for him and his business must be vast with the new funding and ironically, the massive potential with China and the US developing. He's a billionaire, those fuckers are addicted to growing their influence not selling it off. Millionaire, maybe would sell to make more millions, but selling a premier league club with this much potential for money doesn't make sense to a billionaire. Maybe a year ago or after the first relegation, but not now.
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12 June 2017 21:31 Post ID: #480397 - in reply to #479299
I said weeks ago that the time is ripe for him to sell and I still believe that.

A guaranteed spend is needed to stand still this season and a considerable amount to compete. On that score there is little chance of profits in the near future and even less when everyone knows his business already, so being associated with us cant really be making too much difference.

It's a gamble although one with decent rewards in a couple of years if we stay up. It could be one gamble too many.

One thing that most of the ITK's are getting their knickers in a bun over is the fact that this info has been leaked from someone outside the club and they reckon it could be because a deal is further down the line than anyone suspects.

This also, and most likely, is just yet another flaming arrow cast out into the sky to divert our attention from what is needed but im guessing the vast majority is hot on this now.
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12 June 2017 23:06 Post ID: #480399 - in reply to #479299
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Well with some kick off times on a Saturday being moved to 11.30am to satisfy the Far East viewers it would seem that slowly but surely football fans in this country are having to bow to their influence. Will Mike?
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