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The New General Election
18 April 2017 22:27 Post ID: #479114
Seems 5 minutes since we had the debate over the EU Referendum and without trawling over it, this new election just proves that something is up.

For someone like me who tends to turn a blind eye to politics, it seems a no brainer that the Tories need ousting as quickly as possible as they've fucked everything up like social care, Education, the NHS as well as allowed the propaganda to go unchallenged over the immigration 'crisis'.

The countries debt is up and with a backdrop of pleading hard up and cutting costs in every department, they seem to find the cash when something like Trident comes up.

In the meanwhile with the influx of shite on the news about the 'immigrants' coming over here to pinch our jobs and cause shite, the amount of shitty programs on about benefit claimants 'creaming the cash in' and the other stuff with it's one sided intention to corrupt the thought train, the real story is always missed.

The last election not even being legal with it being investigated for fraud and a leader who wasn't even elected properly to then announce something that she isn't even legally entitled to.

This stinks of a corrupt regime thinking they know how the voting public will vote with the back up of a brainwashing tactic.

Even today on the news there were old folk saying they'd voted Labour all of their lives but will now vote Tory based on the fact that they'll get us out of the EU for certain and for that reason alone. Jesus wept.

Ignore all the polls that are really only designed to sway the mind of the uncertain, if ever a result needs to go against the expectation then it's this one but then again, is this not the intention so that the country can have a second referendum and a last minute lifeline in staying in the EU under the leadership of a new party? In the background though, someone or some institution raking in billions whilst we're distracted.

I vote to pay my taxes towards a better health system, education and the various other services that have seen cuts to cover the costs of the greedy. Joe Bloggs on the corner deciding how he wants to spend his dole pittance isn't the enemy in this country and that's before they get their sanction.
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19 April 2017 11:57 Post ID: #479117 - in reply to #479114
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No offence Mark but if the election wipes out that traitor Corbyns Labour Party it won't in my opinion be a bad thing, and Sturgeon gone too would be a bonus.
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19 April 2017 12:33 Post ID: #479118 - in reply to #479117
CM - 19/4/2017 11:57

No offence Mark but if the election wipes out that traitor Corbyns Labour Party it won't in my opinion be a bad thing, and Sturgeon gone too would be a bonus.


From where im standing, Corbyn seemingly wants to bring the 'power' more towards the average Joe but has been massively discredited by the media.

He's got the establishment running scared although too many people seem to be brainwashed by it all and I reckon the further South you go in this country, the stronger this will be.

The list of things wrong under the Conservatives is growing by the week but the focus is shifted onto others with tales of shite. If this was in the dark ages then MP's in parliament would be getting burned alive by the baying mobs who have descended but nowadays they can just deflect the shite regardless of all the evidence around us by using their main mouthpiece, the BBC or whoever else is in the portfolio of the corrupt.

The old saying may be if it's not broke dont fix it but Britain is broken and the brainwashers are making people concentrate on something else. Looks like we're fucked then.
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19 April 2017 12:37 Post ID: #479119 - in reply to #479114
Im out so cant really link anything recent but here's an example.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/19/brussels-isnt-bad-g...
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19 April 2017 14:16 Post ID: #479120 - in reply to #479114
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Corbyn is a nice bloke but he will never win an election and nobody else in the party is any good. Surely this is the perfect time for the election.

I'd normally vote labour but what's the point with corbyn in charge they have no chance.
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19 April 2017 14:23 Post ID: #479121 - in reply to #479114
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Regarding people voting Tory because of brexit why wouldn't they. Maybe they are concerned that any other party might try and get out of brexit somehow.

If corbyn had the verbal and debating skills of a farage without the opinions he has I think labour would win the election.
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19 April 2017 16:46 Post ID: #479122 - in reply to #479114
Did people not learn from the last time that voting for one side with blatant lies will lead to further shite?

http://brexitlies.com

I was on the fence with the referendum but I know I was fooled by the £350m a week figure and ive changed my mind now.

I also wouldn't be surprised if this whole election thing is a con to pretend that a new referendum can be done as Teresa May for one, was so against leaving the EU until recently.
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19 April 2017 17:01 Post ID: #479123 - in reply to #479114
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If we can kick all the foreign trouble-makers out of this country, instead of banging them all up at my and your expense - I'll be fucking delighted.

Good ones? No problem.

Ask the populace of Rotherham the same question.
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19 April 2017 19:22 Post ID: #479127 - in reply to #479114
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I remember telling people the 350 million on the side of the bus was a lie.

I was shot down.

A bit like Newcastle Utd, I hope the people who voted for Brexit suffer the most.

With regards to this election. It's all down to the rigged elections.
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19 April 2017 19:43 Post ID: #479128 - in reply to #479114
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people talk of the lies etc re brexit, I would wager the lies or mis information was from both sides. I read the other day in the papers that Osbourne's predictions if brexit was successful how the country would go to rack and ruin, only 2 out of his 19 predictions have come true. even the bank of england have came out and said they were wrong. Economy is booming, FTSE is high, countries are lining up to trade with the UK , unemployment is low and other countries could possibly follow suit. Article 50 has just been triggered and brexit is in its infancy but markets have responded since the vote. Re the figure that will be given to the NHS, who knows what it will be, it may be more than whatthey were previously getting prior to the vote which is a step in the right direction, i for one hope its close to the figure initially bandied about.
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19 April 2017 20:53 Post ID: #479130 - in reply to #479114
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Regardless of the brexit vote wev'e had 7 yrs of the tories with their boots on the neck of the vulnerable.
Public services have been butchered alongside the N.H.S. education,housing,social care.
Waiting lists for cancer patients are growing,teachers & pupils are stressed,food banks queues are longer etc...all under this vile party.
The vicars fkn daughter is asking the electorate to endorse these policies & they will.
Sad times.
She's promised that Britain will be great again a bit like fatty promising us the champions league,greedy liars.
Apathy is not an excuse.
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19 April 2017 21:15 Post ID: #479131 - in reply to #479114
Curiosity killed the cat but Apathy is the 21st century replacement for it. Hitting everyone as if done by some secret signal from an alien spaceship. More like the media, mobile phones and Faceshite.
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20 April 2017 01:08 Post ID: #479132 - in reply to #479114
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Good thread Toon,be interesting to hear folk airing their politics on here.
Normally the tories & ukip voters keep quiet,others don't give a fuck as long as we get promoted.
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows".
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20 April 2017 01:29 Post ID: #479133 - in reply to #479114
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20 April 2017 01:34 Post ID: #479134 - in reply to #479114
He's a nutter like that Taxi Driver bloke but here's some more.

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20 April 2017 02:41 Post ID: #479135 - in reply to #479114
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He needs a fell or a spliff & to calm down.
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24 April 2017 12:47 Post ID: #479214 - in reply to #479114
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The Daily Mail and The Sun will order the gullible Brits to vote for the nasty party, and they will duly follow suit. Then about six months after the election the same idiots will be complaining about it all. I voted fro Brexit when the polls said no chance of it happening. It happened though didn't it, much to the chagrin of those fools who were afraid to vote "leave".

Right now I want whatever is worst for UK. It has to get a lot worse before change happens. In the meantime I'm living in China, and exploiting the weak pound for my own benefit. I don't care one way or the other what happens to the UK. My loyalty is to China if it comes down to it.
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24 April 2017 14:36 Post ID: #479216 - in reply to #479114
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It seems a lot of people are prepared to shout about the need for change and then vote against the status quo, without too much though as to what the change they voted for may bring. Look at the developing situation in France to name but one example. There can surely be no easier targets for the media manipulation machine. Lambs to the slaughter.
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25 April 2017 12:31 Post ID: #479284 - in reply to #479114
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The same people who were duped by the brexit arguments will be the same people that plunge us into years of Tory rule and misery.

Traitors to the working classes the lot of them.
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25 April 2017 12:39 Post ID: #479286 - in reply to #479216
crooktownmags - 24/4/2017 14:36

It seems a lot of people are prepared to shout about the need for change and then vote against the status quo, without too much though as to what the change they voted for may bring. Look at the developing situation in France to name but one example. There can surely be no easier targets for the media manipulation machine. Lambs to the slaughter.


There's no need to really think of what change may bring but more the fact of what has been achieved under the fraudulent Tories.



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25 April 2017 16:01 Post ID: #479308 - in reply to #479286
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I think you missed the point mate
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25 April 2017 16:03 Post ID: #479309 - in reply to #479308
crooktownmags - 25/4/2017 16:01

I think you missed the point mate


Reading it back I think I did. I thought you meant something else but I agree.
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08 May 2017 11:34 Post ID: #479675 - in reply to #479114
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Good to see the far right getting a spanking in the French election.
Let's hope a similiar result awaits cruella & her vile cohorts on June 8th,god knows what's going to stir the electorate up.
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08 May 2017 11:59 Post ID: #479677 - in reply to #479114
It beats me how the Tories are still getting away with conning the public when the facts are mounting up for reasons not to vote for them.

Oh wait..... we have a corrupted media.

Labour have just announced they're scrapping parking fees for NHS car parks if they get in and the 'loss' paid for by increasing premium tax on private insurance by 8%.

Before those who dont visit hospitals at present think it doesn't matter, what needs taken into context is that hospital staff have been paying around £100 a month just to park at a place where they provide a life saving service.

Sometimes in the very little break they get, they have to rush out and find another 'to pay for' parking space due to the time limits that some have. All designed of course to line some private company directors pocket by the parameters.

This is before you think about family members who have to pay to visit loved ones or the fact that some people visit those who are dying or die and have no choice but to be there day on day.

Just 21st century Dick Turpin tactics and those of us that sit back and allow it are colossal collaborators on a much much larger scale than what Ashley's done here.
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08 May 2017 16:46 Post ID: #479683 - in reply to #479114
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As much as I'd love labour to get in they won't the fucking Tories will walk this election without so much as a whimper by the rest of the parties.
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08 May 2017 23:46 Post ID: #479689 - in reply to #479114
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Aye,you're probably right b.b.c. alongside the polls,it's a foregone conclusion but meanwhile nearly 4,000,000 kids are living in poverty,63% of their parents are working & the figure has been rising for the last 3 years on our tiny isle,one of the richest nations on the planet.
It won't change with the pitchforks & torches but little bonfires in doorways.
Cunts like ashley & may know this.
Acceptance is not an excuse.

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09 May 2017 06:57 Post ID: #479691 - in reply to #479114
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Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knew the 350 b was bullshit, that was hardly an exclusive. Corbyn dies seem like a Nice, honourable and principled man but he's also not up for the fight or ironically for the politic of politics- the number of times he's let May and the Tories off the hook in pm's question time is shocking and very bad for democracy in the uk. Weak opposition is the worst possible situation and we've got that in spades at the moment. They are going to fucking walk this election and what's worse, will leave minimal opposition at parliamentary level to anything they want to introduce in future. They used UKIP and casual racist tendencies and paranoia to dupe everyone into believing the hype and we're paying the price.
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09 May 2017 11:17 Post ID: #479704 - in reply to #479677
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 8/5/2017 11:59

It beats me how the Tories are still getting away with conning the public when the facts are mounting up for reasons not to vote for them.

Oh wait..... we have a corrupted media.

Labour have just announced they're scrapping parking fees for NHS car parks if they get in and the 'loss' paid for by increasing premium tax on private insurance by 8%.

Before those who dont visit hospitals at present think it doesn't matter, what needs taken into context is that hospital staff have been paying around £100 a month just to park at a place where they provide a life saving service.

Sometimes in the very little break they get, they have to rush out and find another 'to pay for' parking space due to the time limits that some have. All designed of course to line some private company directors pocket by the parameters.

This is before you think about family members who have to pay to visit loved ones or the fact that some people visit those who are dying or die and have no choice but to be there day on day.

Just 21st century Dick Turpin tactics and those of us that sit back and allow it are colossal collaborators on a much much larger scale than what Ashley's done here.


Pointless even worrying about it until it happens.
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09 May 2017 11:31 Post ID: #479705 - in reply to #479691
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carlosvendetta - 9/5/2017 06:57

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knew the 350 b was bullshit, that was hardly an exclusive. Corbyn dies seem like a Nice, honourable and principled man but he's also not up for the fight or ironically for the politic of politics- the number of times he's let May and the Tories off the hook in pm's question time is shocking and very bad for democracy in the uk. Weak opposition is the worst possible situation and we've got that in spades at the moment. They are going to fucking walk this election and what's worse, will leave minimal opposition at parliamentary level to anything they want to introduce in future. They used UKIP and casual racist tendencies and paranoia to dupe everyone into believing the hype and we're paying the price.


I see a lot of people saying that Corbyn is not up for the fight, yet May doesn't have the balls to debate on the telly with him or anyone else. People are going to vote for her and not Corbyn? They're just voting against themselves.

Absolute madness.

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09 May 2017 11:43 Post ID: #479706 - in reply to #479114
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Great point.
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09 May 2017 12:28 Post ID: #479711 - in reply to #479704
PieMag - 9/5/2017 11:17

Toon_NoMatterWot - 8/5/2017 11:59

It beats me how the Tories are still getting away with conning the public when the facts are mounting up for reasons not to vote for them.

Oh wait..... we have a corrupted media.

Labour have just announced they're scrapping parking fees for NHS car parks if they get in and the 'loss' paid for by increasing premium tax on private insurance by 8%.

Before those who dont visit hospitals at present think it doesn't matter, what needs taken into context is that hospital staff have been paying around £100 a month just to park at a place where they provide a life saving service.

Sometimes in the very little break they get, they have to rush out and find another 'to pay for' parking space due to the time limits that some have. All designed of course to line some private company directors pocket by the parameters.

This is before you think about family members who have to pay to visit loved ones or the fact that some people visit those who are dying or die and have no choice but to be there day on day.

Just 21st century Dick Turpin tactics and those of us that sit back and allow it are colossal collaborators on a much much larger scale than what Ashley's done here.


Pointless even worrying about it until it happens. :81:


Difference is, is that it is now and on a more important level than football. At least what Ashley's doing/done has killed anyone or caused great hardship on a daily level.

The way in which this country has been brain washed by corruption and horrible tactics to line pockets is more than disgraceful although the likes of Martin Luther King had it right but look what happened to him.

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. "

Martin Luther King, Jr.
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11 May 2017 10:32 Post ID: #479755 - in reply to #479114
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Wouldn't vote Tory. Never have.
Labour are a self-produced laughing stock. Diane Abbott for f***s sake......open door immigration policy lunacy......the lunatic ideas outweigh the good. Nationalization, tax the rich etc - but remember the Windfall tax ? Quietly forgotten after palms were greased by the gas/leccy/water types
UKIP - without Farage they're nothing. I expect them to disappear now Brexit is achieved.
Lib-Dumbs - every bit as bad as the loonies taking over the asylum at Labour.
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11 May 2017 13:11 Post ID: #479763 - in reply to #479114
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Diane Abbott is a massive cunt and a embarrassment to the labour party. Labour won't win that is a fact so that leaves the Tories. So that's more vulnerable people being made homeless because they have been sanctioned by the Nazi party, and more disabled people dying because they have been deemed fit to work and the stress has killed them.
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11 May 2017 16:04 Post ID: #479770 - in reply to #479114
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Agreed. It irritates me intensely that Labour self-destruct to appease arrogant corrupt middle class heterophobic lefties the "wimmin" who are shot down in flames every time they are forced into fair discussion instead of either screaming abuse or sitting in the Question Time audience screaming nonsensical abuse - then questioned about their double standards (Rotherham grooming gangs etc ,they scream all the louder to avoid answering the charges (the repulsive Sarah Campion MP for Rotherham)
Corbyn gets roundly beaten by all and sundry at the dispatch box. Embarrassingly so. Surrounds himself with the CAUSE of Labours problems
Meanwhile because of these pompous fools we get stuck with the Tories.
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11 May 2017 16:08 Post ID: #479771 - in reply to #479675
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Rytoon - 8/5/2017 11:34

Good to see the far right getting a spanking in the French election.
Let's hope a similiar result awaits cruella & her vile cohorts on June 8th,god knows what's going to stir the electorate up.


And how is that good for UK. The banker dick that won has already said he's going to try to dump more of the islamist parasites causing France so much murder and mayhem on US.
While also targeting the banks to go to France (not that they will)
And explain why A right wing banker is any better than LePen ?
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11 May 2017 16:11 Post ID: #479772 - in reply to #479114
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 18/4/2017 22:27


In the meanwhile with the influx of shite on the news about the 'immigrants' coming over here to pinch our jobs and cause shite, .


Walk around with your eyes closed ?
"Shite" it is NOT
Walk down Northumberland Street on ANY day - and our area is amongst the least affected.
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11 May 2017 20:33 Post ID: #479780 - in reply to #479114
It's all about the ideology. The Conservatives fundamentally believe you improve things by making the rich richer, a start at the top and trickle down effect . Labour believe you start by helping those at the bottom up.

If anybody genuinely believes immigration (I don't but that's another story) is a key issue why would you vote Conservative ?

Theresa May in 2010 promised the electorate that she would cut net migration to below 100,000, but instead has allowed the biggest inwards migration surge in history, with net migration peaking at a huge 336,000 shortly before she was appointed as Prime Minister. Theresa May missed her arbitrary target by an astounding 236%

The Conservatives were so embarrassed about their failure to deliver this "contract with the electorate" that they simply deleted all traces of it from the party website. Old Tresemme will give plenty of anti migrant rhetoric to the press but the stats don't lie.
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11 May 2017 20:52 Post ID: #479782 - in reply to #479772
Roman history fan - 11/5/2017 16:11

Toon_NoMatterWot - 18/4/2017 22:27


In the meanwhile with the influx of shite on the news about the 'immigrants' coming over here to pinch our jobs and cause shite, .


Walk around with your eyes closed ?
"Shite" it is NOT
Walk down Northumberland Street on ANY day - and our area is amongst the least affected.


Oh ive seen the increase in numbers and it's a private joke between me and the wife that if you go shopping after a certain hour of night that any place is like Delhi Airport but for me it's still controlled brain wash.

Promises were made to these 'immigrants' where Britain was made out to be the land of milk and honey against the backdrop of us bombing their country.

They're here for a purpose and it's not to save their lives. They're merely pawns in a big game where the rich/powerful are dictating moves by the rest of us getting annoyed about everything.
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11 May 2017 20:54 Post ID: #479783 - in reply to #479114
Also if an important issue in the election is talk of immigration numbers, why is it that people fall for the shite when they show the illegals trying to cross the borders?
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12 May 2017 19:02 Post ID: #479793 - in reply to #479771
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Roman history fan - 11/5/2017 16:08

Rytoon - 8/5/2017 11:34

Good to see the far right getting a spanking in the French election.
Let's hope a similiar result awaits cruella & her vile cohorts on June 8th,god knows what's going to stir the electorate up.


And how is that good for UK. The banker dick that won has already said he's going to try to dump more of the islamist parasites causing France so much murder and mayhem on US.
While also targeting the banks to go to France (not that they will)
And explain why A right wing banker is any better than LePen ?

Behave yersel & take your head out of the daily heil.
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