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14 April 2017 22:19 Post ID: #478995 - in reply to #478952
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Keggy it was a very good performance until he made those ridiculous substitutions. He just can't help himself, how many times this season has his decisions cost the club points. Colback for fuck sake the ginger fucker is a jinx. I'd sooner play the bloody substitute keeper instead of Colback he is that shite.

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14 April 2017 22:23 Post ID: #478996 - in reply to #478992
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I have to agree bbc, I fully expected to be tonking teams week in week out with Rafa at the helm and be home and dry by now well clear at the top. Rafa's tactics are just bizarre at times and clearly more akin to a far better quality of player and a different league (even in that case they were questionable at times). However we have to remember that who he was able to bring in has obviously been restricted by fatty.
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14 April 2017 22:26 Post ID: #478997 - in reply to #478952
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Because those players he had were premier league players until they got relegated, they should have had too much for the teams in this division, they should have walked this league. Tooninkent is correct 17th place every season is what fatty wants why spend £200m on players when he likes a gamble. He might spend £50m but that's fuck all to what he will rake in.
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14 April 2017 22:31 Post ID: #478998 - in reply to #478952
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Don't you think benitez knew what fatty was like. why didn't he walk in January if he thought fatty had gone back on his word regarding transfers?.
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14 April 2017 22:31 Post ID: #478999 - in reply to #478952
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The million dollar question of course is will Ashley back Rafa and make a go of the top league? We all fully expect him to do his usual and for yet another season of relegation standard shite to be served up. I would love this not to be the case and to be in the position to question Rafa's tactics etc in the top half of the top league, but it's just not gonna happen.
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14 April 2017 22:37 Post ID: #479000 - in reply to #478952
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Fatty won't back benitez he won't even be arsed when benitez walks away because he no doubt has drone enough to get them promoted so he has done his job.
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14 April 2017 22:40 Post ID: #479001 - in reply to #478952
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The clubs fucked under Ashley. Promotion is pretty pointless with that fat cockney bastard in charge. We are in more debt now than even Freddie Fletcher managed to accumulate. That takes some level of incompetence.
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14 April 2017 22:42 Post ID: #479002 - in reply to #478952
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I have no idea billybobcat, I'm sure he did know about Mike's reputation, as to why he didn't walk after January's shenanigans only Rafa knows that, unless of course he is just looking after himself and whatever is in his contract.
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14 April 2017 22:48 Post ID: #479003 - in reply to #478952
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In which case I for one hope that they fuck it up and we don't go up at all. Costs Mikey boy much more knocking about in the championship especially with no Rafa. Crowds would soon dwindle.
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14 April 2017 22:51 Post ID: #479004 - in reply to #479001
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vin1892 - 14/4/2017 22:40

The clubs fucked under Ashley. Promotion is pretty pointless with that fat cockney bastard in charge. We are in more debt now than even Freddie Fletcher managed to accumulate. That takes some level of incompetence.


How can they possibly be in debt mate he has been paid what he paid for the club many times over surely?.
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14 April 2017 22:56 Post ID: #479005 - in reply to #478952
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Profits disappear and then he loans the company he owns money. Can somebody please explain to me how you can loan yourself money that you took out in the first place?
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14 April 2017 22:56 Post ID: #479006 - in reply to #479003
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tooninkent - 14/4/2017 22:48

In which case I for one hope that they fuck it up and we don't go up at all. Costs Mikey boy much more knocking about in the championship especially with no Rafa. Crowds would soon dwindle.


That's what I've been saying for years mate. If they blow it and end up in the play offs I really hope they get turned over. Surely the only way of ousting him is the club not being in the money league.
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14 April 2017 23:08 Post ID: #479007 - in reply to #478952
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"I am pleased with the performance of the team, the commitment, the passion, the effort but I am disappointed because we make a mistake at the end - at the end, I mean 95 minutes.

"I don't understand a lot of things from the last few games but we have to be proud of the effort.

"We have to keep winning our games and that's it. The priority is to go up and we have to win games if we want to do that."



What don't you understand? You took good players off and replaced them with shite before the game was won. Fucking simple.
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14 April 2017 23:16 Post ID: #479008 - in reply to #478952
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Now if pardew/fat sam had of said that they would have been slaughtered on here, that is a fact but as its benitez he will probably be praised because they got a point. Surely he has to admit it was his fault they dropped 2 points.
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14 April 2017 23:39 Post ID: #479009 - in reply to #478952
Billy I know you're a frustrated fan but you have to judge us on where we are at present and not where we've been. The reality is, is that we've a championship squad with a handful who can cut it in the top league on their day.

The squad was built for one job and according to the table, we're still doing what was written on the tin with our intentions. Aim for promotion.

As for making Benitez come out of this smelling of roses, if we achieve the aim then he'll smell of nowt but.

Tonight's result was nowt to do with Ashley policy, Rafa tactics or performance. It was because the aim of the game is to score more goals than the opposition and we didn't.

To say the life was drained out of me when their equaliser went in was an understatement as we were so far on top with a game that deserved so much better but it's happened far too often this season with the Blackburn away one another that springs to mind. That alone equates to 5 extra points that we should have.

Also factor in the fact that we have had the most biased set of officials against us the whole season that have not only affected our games but also helped rival clubs around us with the amount of penalties the other top teams have had more than us not to mention the amount of strange decisions that have helped others gain late goals. Huddersfield again today for about the 6th time.

It's as if the EFL see us as a massive factor in us being in it due to the financial spin offs they get as well as it's profile raised not to mention that we're the side that every other raises their game against and they play their best performance of the season. To our credit, we're still well placed.

As for the game, there's not too much to add to what the TV shows but without seeing it to compare, i'll give my opinion.

Ritchie was man of the match by a mile for me. His on ball stuff was top notch but his off ball running and making others make their runs was excellent.

Hayden had a good return and allows Shelvey to do his stuff virtually unnoticed as if he's not the most important any more. Mitrovic played his role well but should really have had a partner closer to him as he held the ball up well and flicked on when needed. The fact Rafa doesn't play a 2 up top system but a more supporting build up is evident.

On saying that, the more the game went on the likes of Perez shone and the anonymous, in the first half, Gouffran came into it.

On another day, probably in a different league without the shite officials we get, we'd have got a stone wall pen although even then, we get them disallowed for fuck all.

On reflection we battered them although the Leeds fan that ran on the pitch, probably through the exit gates at the Gallowgate that open near the end, bowed down on his knees to Rob Green in the goal at the end probably spoiled the momentum we had to a degree. The fat man dragged away to the corner before getting attacked by a few and then kicked all over outside.

Mistakes aside and a Colback foul that was loudly cheered before the aftermath resulted in their goal, we didn't deserve that tonight after everything that was put into it. In some games we've laboured through and been rightly accused of papering over the cracks but blaming anything but the game of football for that is creating a false agenda.

Atmosphere was the best of the season by some distance and the Leeds fans heard once or twice if that although Sky will have had a mic in their end.

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14 April 2017 23:46 Post ID: #479010 - in reply to #478952
To add, there was nothing wrong with the subs made. Maybe I would have made a more obvious one in adding Murphy but with the game looking won, it wasn't necessary until it was too late.

Ritchie was taken off to protect him ahead of the run in as he got clattered far too often and was running out of steam.

Hayden was knackered after returning from injury and Perez was out on his feet after a great shift.

Each sub was like for like.

Mitrovic was also similarly knackered but he was still having an impact.
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14 April 2017 23:49 Post ID: #479011 - in reply to #478952
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Nowt to do with benitez tactics are you taking the piss. He is the sole reason why they didn't pick up the 3 points instead of the 1they got fact. I cannot believe some people, talk about having the wool pulled over their eyes.

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14 April 2017 23:51 Post ID: #479012 - in reply to #479011
billybobcat - 14/4/2017 23:49

Nowt to do with benitez tactics are you taking the piss. He is the sole reason why they didn't pick up the 3 points instead of the 1cthey got fact. I cannot believe some people, talk about having the wool pulled over their eyes.


Who was Benitez marking?
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15 April 2017 00:00 Post ID: #479013 - in reply to #478952
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Don't talk fucking shite man, you can't defend a man who's tactics have cost the club another 2 points. How can you constantly stick up for benitez shocking tactics. If pardew/fat sam had of been manager this season you would have slated them if they served up the shit benitez has.
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15 April 2017 00:06 Post ID: #479014 - in reply to #479013
billybobcat - 15/4/2017 00:00

Don't talk fucking shite man, you can't defend a man who's tactics have cost the club another 2 points. How can you constantly stick up for benitez shocking tactics. If pardew/fat sam had of been manager this season you would have slated them if they served up the shit benitez has.


There was nothing wrong with the tactics tonight. In some games id agree but not today.

We DREW as we conceded 15 seconds from time due to Lascelles marking one of our January signings. As in fresh air.

As well you know, Pardew was hated for many reasons and the football just an excuse to get it off the chest.

Hippo Heed's football didn't get the results to go with the utter shite. Rafa's is still succeeding.
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15 April 2017 00:08 Post ID: #479015 - in reply to #478952
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I think you should take as look at the post at 23.08 that sums it up for me.

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15 April 2017 00:14 Post ID: #479016 - in reply to #478952
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If the life drained out of you when they scored god help you're health if they blow it and don't go up. A plus point you will have you're derby games to go to.
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15 April 2017 00:14 Post ID: #479017 - in reply to #479015
billybobcat - 15/4/2017 00:08

I think you should take as look at the post at 23.08 that sums it up for me.


It sums it up for me as well as it's wrong.

The players taken off were cattled.
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15 April 2017 00:17 Post ID: #479018 - in reply to #479016
billybobcat - 15/4/2017 00:14

If the life drained out of you when they scored god help you're health if they blow it and don't go up. A plus point you will have you're derby games to go to.


*your

It was a figure of speech.

Seen us go up many times and seen us go down a similar number. Following the Toon is guaranteed to cause health issues but we'll be fine. If anyone is showing signs of stress it's you Billy.
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15 April 2017 00:17 Post ID: #479019 - in reply to #478952
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Unless they were injured they would still have done a better job than those that came on. Cattled my arse bloody hell they are supposed to be professional footballers.
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15 April 2017 00:21 Post ID: #479020 - in reply to #478952
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I'm not stressed if they go up or don't it makes no difference to me, I just don't get how you constantly make excuses for when benitez fucks up. You will be devastated if they don't go up admit it
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15 April 2017 00:21 Post ID: #479021 - in reply to #479019
billybobcat - 15/4/2017 00:17

Unless they were injured they would still have done a better job than those that came on. Cattled my arse bloody hell they are supposed to be professional footballers.


Ritchie was getting no protection from the ref near the end and was taken out too often. Hayden was returning from injury and Perez put in his best shift for months. If it wasn't for the positioning of Lascelles at the end, it would have been decisions that would have been applauded.

In hindsight it's difficult to know what would have happened but these changes happen every game to almost every team. It's nowt new and it's no excuse.
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15 April 2017 00:25 Post ID: #479022 - in reply to #478952
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I would never applaud the bringing on of colback he is dogshit.
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15 April 2017 00:29 Post ID: #479023 - in reply to #479020
billybobcat - 15/4/2017 00:21

I'm not stressed if they go up or don't it makes no difference to me, I just don't get how you constantly make excuses for when benitez fucks up. You will be devastated if they don't go up admit it :3:


Not devastated as there's things in life which blow this out the water but I know id be disappointed for a bit.

There are advantages to not going up as in there's less greed for Ashley to syphon in this league and it's a more honest league than the premier with better fan interaction with crowds that actually appreciate coming to play us.

As for Rafa ive said many times, maybe not on here as much, when he's done something that I wouldn't have done or it seems wrong but the bloke is hot on his facts and the facts state that we are where he aimed to get us this season. In the promotion places.

To put it into context. In regards to the last 18 relegated teams from the top league. Only 1 (ONE) team has went back up automatically without the need for the play offs. We would be the 2nd.

That's before you mention the fact that our soul was ripped out and the mentality shot. Only one bloke has managed to change the majority of things.
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15 April 2017 00:32 Post ID: #479024 - in reply to #479022
billybobcat - 15/4/2017 00:25

I would never applaud the bringing on of colback he is dogshit.


I didnt and we can agree on this but he's a player Rafa trusts in this league due to our win percentage when he plays. IF we go up, the trust wont matter as he'll be let go.
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15 April 2017 00:35 Post ID: #479025 - in reply to #478952
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Good post toony but just because benitez is a decent and honourable bloke doesn't hide the fact he will not change his tactics, and has made some costly substitutions this season. As I've said many times he is a decent bloke but he has gone right down in my estimations managerial wise when he isn't managing a squad of class players.
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15 April 2017 00:41 Post ID: #479026 - in reply to #479025
billybobcat - 15/4/2017 00:35

Good post toony but just because benitez is a decent and honourable bloke doesn't hide the fact he will not change his tactics, and has made some costly substitutions this season. As I've said many times he is a decent bloke but he has gone right down in my estimations managerial wise when he isn't managing a squad of class players.


In that context then, should he not go up in your expectations if he's taken a bunch of average players to a play off spot at the very least?

If we go up I reckon you'll hear vibes from Rafa that it is one of his greatest achievements and looking back to this time last year I cant remember too many people saying we'd walk this league.

I predicted a promotion for the first time not so long ago to be achieved at home to Preston and I dont think i'll be far off. Im still confident but not so in regards to getting the title.
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15 April 2017 00:50 Post ID: #479028 - in reply to #478952
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Toony they are crap compared to premier league standards but they should have been too good for this utter crap league, so an automatic promotion place was fully expected in my eyes.

I think his formation doesn't suit this league like it might in the premier league and people paying to watch his style of football must be easily pleased or just pleased to get away from their families for a few hours.
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15 April 2017 01:03 Post ID: #479030 - in reply to #479028
billybobcat - 15/4/2017 00:50

Toony they are crap compared to premier league standards but they should have been too good for this utter crap league, so an automatic promotion place was fully expected in my eyes.

I think his formation doesn't suit this league like it might in the premier league and people paying to watch his style of football must be easily pleased or just pleased to get away from their families for a few hours.


That could be written on any of our gravestones in relation to the Toon overall. It is what it is though and you can only really judge things by going through it. On that score, this season at St James' has been the best for a bit if not just judging the football.
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15 April 2017 01:43 Post ID: #479031 - in reply to #478952
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Ordinary set of players but better than any other set of players in said league since the last time the fans and Ashley got SDU relegated. My 4 year old son and his mates could walk this League. Mind you, it would be made easier if they played against Big Jamal every game. Remember when he first signed and I said the Forrest lads laughed? They're still laughing. Nice bloke like. But that's what the moron fan base want.
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15 April 2017 02:13 Post ID: #479032 - in reply to #478952
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*Forest, thicko.



Edited by Neppos 15/4/2017 02:26
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15 April 2017 04:54 Post ID: #479033 - in reply to #478952
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I have to agree with the substitutions made, Hayden was coming back from injury and was knackered, the sub was like for like. Yes Colback is poor was anyone else on the bench that could perform his role? Ritchie had been kicked all night and covered every blade of grass he was knackered also. Diame while on a par with Colback was on to plug gaps as we were in control of the game, Leeds did very little to hurt us ..............until the end. It was poor finishing that cost us tonight we should have been out of sight by 75 mins.

I struggle at times with the Rafa bashing, he is a world class manager, most of the worlds footballing comunity agree on this, his tactics may not be to everyones liking but he is atsked with getting us out of this division, currently we are on track to achieve that. Remember some of the recent managers we have had...........Carver and Pardew, teams spanking us evey other weekend. He has come in and turned not just the club but to a large extent the city round. FFS who do people want? realistically? he is the best we can attract by a country mile. It makes no difference in the grand scheme as i feel he will be on his toes after completing his task this summer, he is a man with morals and because of false promises he will be away. In my opinion the only reason he stayed after Jan's debarcle is because of his affection to the fans.
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15 April 2017 07:01 Post ID: #479034 - in reply to #478952
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I agree with a good deal of what you've said toony - for me the subs were pretty unavoidable, both Hayden and Ritchie were knackered. The way I saw it two things had a larger impact than the subs - firstly mitrovic deciding to try to chew up time by electing to keep it in the corner when we had them stretched and on the ropes; this killed our momentum and gave Leeds impetus to break when they won possession back. Secondly was AGAIN, lascelles switching off and ball watching - he's another that doesn't seem to be able to concentrate for the full 90 and I've lost count how many goals he's cost this season from his brain going walkabout. Thought Hayden and Mbemba were excellent.
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15 April 2017 07:18 Post ID: #479035 - in reply to #478952
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Benitez s the best manager we've had in years, but I'm not afraid to call him out on it when he's wrong. The game is never won at 1-0 and I'm sick of seeing managers try and defend a 1-0 lead when the defence is simply not good enough to do that job. However, having had time to sleep on it and calm down I think attack has always been the best form of defence and the stupid Spanish bastard made the worst substitutions I've seen for some time. Bollocks he had no choice I'd rather have tired players with a brain on the pitch than two thick bastards brought on. Agree with dumb and dumber pissing around by the corner flag, that was never gonna work out for us.
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15 April 2017 07:48 Post ID: #479036 - in reply to #479031
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Officemonkey - 15/4/2017 01:43

Ordinary set of players but better than any other set of players in said league since the last time the fans and Ashley got SDU relegated. My 4 year old son and his mates could walk this League. Mind you, it would be made easier if they played against Big Jamal every game. Remember when he first signed and I said the Forrest lads laughed? They're still laughing. Nice bloke like. But that's what the moron fan base want.


I see you're still frustrated with life, I'll set up a justgiving page to buy you a new chamois if it'll help.

Edited by Gillyboat 15/4/2017 07:51
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