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29 June 2016 19:03 Post ID: #472488 - in reply to #472471
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 29/6/2016 13:02

Not sure who saw the bloke yesterday who covered his face when Farage was talking in the Euro Parliament place. Anyway, for what it's worth, here is his account of that and the whole thing.




https://ec.europa.eu/commission/2014-2019/andriukaitis/blog/thoughts...

Been picked up by the papers too...

http://gu.com/p/4n4y4/fb
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29 June 2016 20:48 Post ID: #472492 - in reply to #471037
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Just back from a few days in the glorious Fells of Cumbria,somewhere/something England can be proud of.
Fine post from Woppy.
"Yes we're all pissed off but navel gazing ain't gonna help".
Aye there's a massive sea change.The decision has been made.
There's an opportunity for folk to set the political agenda for years to come.
Here's hoping we don't fuck it up & allow the tories/ukip to dictate their vile policies.Apathy is not an excuse.
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29 June 2016 21:12 Post ID: #472493 - in reply to #472492
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That really does sum it up Rytoon.
With the crux being the last paragraph.

Let's hope it works out.

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29 June 2016 21:54 Post ID: #472501 - in reply to #471037
Love him or loathe him, the biggest obstacle to the tories getting free reign of power in the UK is Corbyn.

In what should be the spotlight of why we've decided to leave the EU and the fact that Cameron is fucking off, it's been wiped out by the media agenda to get rid. Yet again, there's very few people questioning as to why that is.

By the time some people wake up, the coffee will be long gone and so will our hopes of a decent Britain.
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29 June 2016 22:20 Post ID: #472502 - in reply to #471037
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Corbyn might be a nice bloke but he would never be PM in a month of Sundays, he needs replacing by someone who the public would actually vote for. Regarding that Farage i watched that EU Summit or whatever it was and you cant blame the fucker for gloating. imagine 17 years ago you say to them i want the UK to leave the EU and they all laughed at him thinking he was mad, but who's the fucking mad one now, he has helped in getting us out of that corrupt unelected farce. Like him or not the longer Corbyn is Labour leader the more people will vote for UKIP.
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29 June 2016 22:44 Post ID: #472503 - in reply to #471037
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I'd vote for Corbyn, and over a quarter of a million people did so in the leadership election. Since he's been elected the membership of the party has gone through the roof. Every election since he came to power has seen an increased share of the vote. Labour held Oldham West in the first big test, increasing the share of the vote. He's doing well. He's a careful man, who considers the position and then acts. He knows what he is doing. Let the rebel MPs call an election. They would lose. They don't want a government led by Corbyn, preferring a Tory government instead. It's their move now, let them put up a candidate. With the Chilcott report coming up they are searching for a candidate that voted against the Iraq War. They don't have one.

This attempt to undermine Corbyn is in the same vein as the calls for a re run of the EU Referendum. It's the establishment telling the public that they are making the wrong choices. For better or worse it is their choice, that's why we have votes. Denying the result is dangerous, and leads to authoritarianism.

The prize is within our grasp. Elect a socialist government, independent of the UE austerity rules. This is the left version of Brexit I favoured. It's here already. Time to grasp the nettle.
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29 June 2016 23:40 Post ID: #472505 - in reply to #471037
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Nietzsche."There are no facts,only interpretations".
Sat on top of Hallen Fell for 2 hours with mi lass & a wee Skylark did its dance near the summit cairn.
Most never batted an eyelid.Just bagged the mountain & got their selfies,willie fkn whitelaw's old patch.
He's long gone but the Fells stood firm & fed the migrant bird.
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30 June 2016 18:45 Post ID: #472526 - in reply to #471037
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Corbyn has the carrisma of a pox seeping japs eye, im asleep within 10 secs of the trampish looking cunt appearing on the tv, the labour party is totally unelectable atm i mean have your seen the clip of angela eagle ffs she could scare crows of a meat wagon, back to corbynator he wants to get rid of trident and open dialog with isis what a fucking bellend id love to see his bracket if he was sitting infront of isis with an orange boiler suit on waiting to get his cabbage hacked off.
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30 June 2016 19:41 Post ID: #472531 - in reply to #471037
Not Bob Johnson.
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30 June 2016 19:53 Post ID: #472533 - in reply to #471037
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After today's events. The tory grip on power is a little more assured. It's going as though somebody had this planned all along. Critical times ahead.
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30 June 2016 19:53 Post ID: #472534 - in reply to #471037
Not Bob Johnson.
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30 June 2016 20:20 Post ID: #472538 - in reply to #472526
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claud_ballz - 30/6/2016 18:45

Corbyn has the carrisma of a pox seeping japs eye, im asleep within 10 secs of the trampish looking cunt appearing on the tv, the labour party is totally unelectable atm i mean have your seen the clip of angela eagle ffs she could scare crows of a meat wagon, back to corbynator he wants to get rid of trident and open dialog with isis what a fucking bellend id love to see his bracket if he was sitting infront of isis with an orange boiler suit on waiting to get his cabbage hacked off.


HAHAHA That made me laugh "angela eagle ffs she could scare crows of a meat wagon"
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30 June 2016 20:22 Post ID: #472539 - in reply to #471037
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To be totally honest Corbyn is a canny bloke but he simply isn't PM material, i don't know who is mind they all look gormless.
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07 July 2016 14:51 Post ID: #472686 - in reply to #471037
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10 July 2016 11:13 Post ID: #472761 - in reply to #471037
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Here's a fact from the "experts" which you may care to digest, you little button faced cunt.

Prior to the referendum the bookmakers (experts in their field) were predicting an overwhelming victory for the Remain camp. They were wrong, weren't they. Just like the drama merchants who suggested the world would end, were also wrong. We're ticking along in the same way as we ever did, not better, not worse, just the same.

Experts eh .... fucking idiots, and some people believe them because they are self declared experts.
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10 July 2016 17:41 Post ID: #472765 - in reply to #471037
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I still say Labour will never win an election as long as Corbyn is in charge. He might be liked by people and he genuinely seems a canny bloke but i cant see the majority of the public voting for him.
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11 July 2016 18:08 Post ID: #472798 - in reply to #472765
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"Brexit means Brexit and were going to make a success of it."

Gawd bless the working classes they deserve everything they get,now and in the future.
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11 July 2016 18:28 Post ID: #472799 - in reply to #472798
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PieMag - 11/7/2016 18:08



Gawd bless the working classes they deserve everything they get,now and in the future.


ain't that the truth guvnor.
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12 July 2016 08:30 Post ID: #472805 - in reply to #471037
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It could have been worse we could have voted to stay LOL.
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12 July 2016 10:30 Post ID: #472808 - in reply to #472805
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You believe it could have been worse billy !!

Effectively this is what has happened since the vote to leave.

The main protagonists from the leave side have disappeared.
(Did anyone imagine a few short weeks ago that blond Boris backstabber Gove or Herr Farage would not be leading the exit from the EU ) ?

The leader of the country resigned on the basis that he was not the right person to lead a country that had voted against his beliefs.

The new leader of the country holds the same views and beliefs as the ousted/resigned leader.

The new leader has been fast tracked to the top,what happened to September ?

Allegedly some are calling for a general election.
The silly fuckers who believed Labour would come to the rescue if this were to happen are exposed as....silly fuckers.

The working classes who voted for their tory masters should stand in corners with dunce hats on and repeat to infinity

Red, white and blue what does it mean to you?
Surely you're proud, shout it aloud,
"Little Englanders, awake!"
The empire too, we can depend on you.
Freedom remains. These are the chains
Nothing can break.
There'll always be an England,
And England shall be free

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
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12 July 2016 11:11 Post ID: #472810 - in reply to #471037
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The North has never really had a voice as middle England and The South effectively hold the vote, particularly now we can't rely on the Scottish votes. I certainly wouldn't be adverse to doing what they do in Spain and split the country into regions who have control over health, education etc. I couldn't give a fuck about being part of England, never mind part of the UK. I'm not a little `Englander', I'm a little `Northerner'.
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12 July 2016 11:25 Post ID: #472811 - in reply to #471037
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I certainly wouldn't be adverse to doing what they do in Spain and split the country into regions who have control over health, education etc. I couldn't give a fuck about being part of England

That's the only way we will get to escape the conservatives but as our region has fuck all in terms of natural resources to get income from we will effectively end up as the tories bitches and having to rely on handouts.


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12 July 2016 11:55 Post ID: #472813 - in reply to #471037
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Nissan is one of the largest employers in the UK and we do have a very hardworking, reliable workforce. There's very little natural resource anywhere in England. London produces fuck all but is still one of the richest cities in the world reliant upon financial services and tourism. Even, if as now, we have people working outside the area, they will still be spending their money within our area and contributing to the local economy.
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12 July 2016 21:15 Post ID: #472828 - in reply to #472808
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PieMag - 12/7/2016 10:30

You believe it could have been worse billy !!

Effectively this is what has happened since the vote to leave.

The main protagonists from the leave side have disappeared.
(Did anyone imagine a few short weeks ago that blond Boris backstabber Gove or Herr Farage would not be leading the exit from the EU ) ?

The leader of the country resigned on the basis that he was not the right person to lead a country that had voted against his beliefs.

The new leader of the country holds the same views and beliefs as the ousted/resigned leader.

The new leader has been fast tracked to the top,what happened to September ?

Allegedly some are calling for a general election.
The silly fuckers who believed Labour would come to the rescue if this were to happen are exposed as....silly fuckers.

The working classes who voted for their tory masters should stand in corners with dunce hats on and repeat to infinity

Red, white and blue what does it mean to you?
Surely you're proud, shout it aloud,
"Little Englanders, awake!"
The empire too, we can depend on you.
Freedom remains. These are the chains
Nothing can break.
There'll always be an England,
And England shall be free



It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.



It's almost as if somebody's cunning plan has worked out rather well. Tactical masterstroke.
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12 July 2016 21:24 Post ID: #472829 - in reply to #471037
Propaganda aside, something i wanted to see in my vision of an OUT vote is happening. That being more of our money is being spent in this country instead of abroad.

I was speaking to a bloke I know who works for a travel agent and he said home holiday bookings are up 60% at his place. Ive always said that the vote should be used to make the country great again by learning to wipe our own arses. In the main though, it wont happen.
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12 July 2016 22:06 Post ID: #472830 - in reply to #471037
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Exactly pellet.
Whatever the plan was and whoever made it must be laughing their heads off while simultaneously being in a state of shock at how well this is working out for the tory party and just how gullible people are.

I wonder if the easily led will ever be given a vote in a referendum determining how much MP's should be paid.


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12 July 2016 22:21 Post ID: #472831 - in reply to #472830
PieMag - 12/7/2016 22:06

Exactly pellet.
Whatever the plan was and whoever made it must be laughing their heads off while simultaneously being in a state of shock at how well this is working out for the tory party and just how gullible people are.

I wonder if the easily led will ever be given a vote in a referendum determining how much MP's should be paid.




The easy fix for all this is a straight forward march on parliament with our pitch forks and axes, showing the government that the real power is with the public.

However, it's things like this that people don't/wont realise until they're in their older years because as it stands, society is fucked.

Whether that be food, social media, the likes of the X Factor, the media including the biased BBC and Sky. A zombie state is being created in front of our eyes with the worst aspect in the news this week with that Pokemon Go thing.

What a pile of shite.

It's bad enough walking along the street or in the shops without the brainless paying no attention to real life in fear of missing a seconds attention from their device but with this new Pokemon App, this dictates where the mongs are sent to earn 'stuff'.

People need to wake up.
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12 July 2016 22:59 Post ID: #472833 - in reply to #471037
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Aye,
whoever wrote the material for that film Idiocracy had it pretty much spot on.

The only major mistake made was to predict the dumbing down would happen five centuries into the future.
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13 July 2016 01:22 Post ID: #472835 - in reply to #472830
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PieMag - 12/7/2016 22:06

I wonder if the easily led will ever be given a vote in a referendum determining how much MP's should be paid.

I think the easily leads voting days are over. For grown up stuff anyway. For their own good mind you as these things can get ever so confusing.
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13 July 2016 05:54 Post ID: #472836 - in reply to #471037
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what a couple of condesending pricks. You're hardly the brains trust . To think you have just lumped 17 million people into the catagories of "easily led" and not being permitted into "grown up' voting. I would put my house on their being some highly intelligent people who voted out.
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13 July 2016 09:26 Post ID: #472840 - in reply to #471037
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Is it a wooden house ?
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13 July 2016 09:45 Post ID: #472841 - in reply to #471037
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Considering more people voted to remain than stay what does that make the people who voted to remain, if the leave voters are being classed as "easily led". Lets hope Theresa May sticks to her promise of Brexit means Brexit.
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13 July 2016 09:58 Post ID: #472845 - in reply to #472841
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billybobcat - 13/7/2016 09:45

Considering more people voted to remain than stay what does that make the people who voted to remain, if the leave voters are being classed as "easily led".


Not easily led ?

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13 July 2016 10:34 Post ID: #472848 - in reply to #471037
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I hope you don't have access to matches Perry.

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13 July 2016 10:46 Post ID: #472851 - in reply to #472845
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PieMag - 13/7/2016 09:58

billybobcat - 13/7/2016 09:45

Considering more people voted to remain than stay what does that make the people who voted to remain, if the leave voters are being classed as "easily led".


Not easily led ?



You seem very bitter piemag why is that, the majority of the country voted to leave yet you cant seem to let it go.
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13 July 2016 10:57 Post ID: #472855 - in reply to #471037
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Not bitter at all billy it's a subject that impacts the lives of my kids am I not allowed to comment on it ?

It's possible that you have more posts in this thread than I,does that make you bitter ?

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13 July 2016 11:27 Post ID: #472856 - in reply to #471037
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Of course you are allowed to comment mate i just don't get the need for people that voted leave who were the majority to be classed as "easily led". Yes i can understand it could impact your kids in the future but as i say more people voted to leave than to stay, so im sure they felt the same way regarding their kids futures, but felt the risk was worth it so the country has more say instead of the EU sticking their noses in everything.
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13 July 2016 11:52 Post ID: #472859 - in reply to #471037
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Had the lies not been told regarding the NHS etc then I've no doubt the remain campaign would've won. Whilst 1 million people is a lot in certain ways, in terms of an entire nation it's nowt.
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13 July 2016 11:52 Post ID: #472860 - in reply to #471037
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Had the lies not been told regarding the NHS etc then I've no doubt the remain campaign would've won. Whilst 1 million people is a lot in certain ways, in terms of an entire nation it's nowt.
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13 July 2016 12:02 Post ID: #472863 - in reply to #471037
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The leave won though that's the end of it.
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