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27 June 2016 17:37 Post ID: #472321 - in reply to #471037
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The fucking country would be rioting if they dared to have another referendum. as that Farage stated "its not the best of three" you got beat fucking deal with it you utter cunts.
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27 June 2016 18:49 Post ID: #472322 - in reply to #471037
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It's a little more complex than that Billy. If the whole country wanted us to upsticks and move our island to Mars they wouldn't just do it. They need to look into all of the implications. At present, it's looking like a royal fuck up based on lies and half truths. Then you have the fascists rising, the economy falling and half the original Brexiters saying 'oh fuck, what have we done'.
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27 June 2016 18:56 Post ID: #472323 - in reply to #472319
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vin1892 - 27/6/2016 16:06

It would pretty much undermine the whole democratic system if the vote is ignored. What's next - the winners of the next general election saying - `you know what I don't fancy it as there's too much hard work to do'.

The politicians are shitting themselves because they've got to do a bit of work rather than shouting `here, here' in the House of Commons. It may just be beyond the idiots that we have from all parties to able to negotiate trade deals, shore up our borders, pass knew tax legislation and fuck me if we've all got to have knew passports there'll be a fucking meltdown.


I agree that the democratic system would be undermined vin but that hasn't stopped them in the past.

Politics is all about manipulation,the poll tax is a classic example.

They are definitely having a go at another referendum

It's no coincidence that the majority of news reports concentrate on stories about, those that regret not voting,students who will have to live with the consequences of soon to be dead people,the scottish nation overwhelmly voting out but being punished by the polarized english and welsh vote....blah blah.

The first two are clearly not true,they are playing mind games.

BB reckons there would be a riot,do they care ?

All they need is the majority to be seen to be on their side.
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27 June 2016 19:02 Post ID: #472324 - in reply to #471037
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"They are definitely having a go at another referendum"

No they aren't Cameron has already stated so.
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27 June 2016 19:06 Post ID: #472325 - in reply to #471037
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He also stated that they would control migration billy.
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27 June 2016 19:10 Post ID: #472326 - in reply to #471037
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That's different to having a new referendum Piemag the country would riot. Immigration will be sorted once everything settles down, the most important thing is we are out of the EU, fuck them and their unelected corrupt cunts.
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27 June 2016 19:12 Post ID: #472327 - in reply to #471037
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The French will be next to leave then the Dutch and more after that, the EU is crumbling fuck that East German cunt Merkel.
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27 June 2016 19:23 Post ID: #472329 - in reply to #472326
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billybobcat - 27/6/2016 19:10

That's different to having a new referendum Piemag the country would riot. Immigration will be sorted once everything settles down, the most important thing is we are out of the EU, fuck them and their unelected corrupt cunts.


We are not out of the EU and even if we do I suspect any deal we cut with the EU will include free movement of workers and people.

If it is immigration from outside of the EU (which is the majority) then I'm afraid you've voted on the wrong vote. That's a Tory/government issue.

I fear you've been duped. You'll feel that even more so if and when the NHS is sold off. The Brexit campaigners have certainly shown their true colours in the last few days. Farage, Boris, Gove and Grayling just can't stop lying.

Every person who voted to leave who've I've met in the last few days is having massive regrets. They'll not be the only ones.
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27 June 2016 19:25 Post ID: #472330 - in reply to #471037
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I'd be interested to know how many people have actually had a job taken off them by an immigrant or sacked and replaced by one.

If this has happened then you should either seek legal advice or ask yourself why. Although I'm yet to come across anyone who hasn't been able to live as they wish, with the job that they have.

Too many people also forgetting that this free movement of people and workers works both ways.
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27 June 2016 19:28 Post ID: #472331 - in reply to #471037
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Im not arsed about immigration im more bothered about stopping the EU telling the UK what it can and cant do. why do you keep going on about immigration its not just that people voted to leave.
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27 June 2016 19:35 Post ID: #472332 - in reply to #471037
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It's the main reason lots voted to leave.

So if it's not immigration, even though you and others have mentioned it several times, what is it? Can't be the economy because that's proving to be a load of bullshit by the people you places trust in.

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/the-sun-has-also-got-aroun...

As for Brussels... I suspect you haven't taken on board any of the facts regarding EU law that has been presented on this very thread. I'll give you one clue though, we helped make those laws and agreed with the vast, vast majority of them. I highly suspect none of them have had any negative impact on your life.
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27 June 2016 19:50 Post ID: #472333 - in reply to #472317
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 27/6/2016 14:00

Officemonkey - 27/6/2016 13:52

Her name is Vivienne and I've sent the proof to TNMW.


I can confirm ive seen the proof OL.


un-fucking-believable

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27 June 2016 20:17 Post ID: #472334 - in reply to #471037
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Just take the defeat like a man OM your lot got turned over end of fucking story. Of course its in turmoil at the minute what did you expect its been 4 fucking days it will get better.

Edited by billybobcat 27/6/2016 20:19
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27 June 2016 20:31 Post ID: #472338 - in reply to #472333
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PieMag - 27/6/2016 19:50

Toon_NoMatterWot - 27/6/2016 14:00

Officemonkey - 27/6/2016 13:52

Her name is Vivienne and I've sent the proof to TNMW.


I can confirm ive seen the proof OL.


un-fucking-believable



Yep, this is what you have to do when you're on an overgrown child's list.
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27 June 2016 20:32 Post ID: #472339 - in reply to #472334
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billybobcat - 27/6/2016 20:17

Just take the defeat like a man OM your lot got turned over end of fucking story. Of course its in turmoil at the minute what did you expect its been 4 fucking days it will get better.


Exactly how I feel about the situation.

https://clairebroadley.com/2016/06/26/so-you-want-me-to-be-happy/
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27 June 2016 20:33 Post ID: #472340 - in reply to #472338
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Officemonkey - 27/6/2016 20:31

PieMag - 27/6/2016 19:50

Toon_NoMatterWot - 27/6/2016 14:00

Officemonkey - 27/6/2016 13:52

Her name is Vivienne and I've sent the proof to TNMW.


I can confirm ive seen the proof OL.


un-fucking-believable



Yep, this is what you have to do when you're on an overgrown child's list.


Why didn't you report him OM you could have got the coppers onto him.
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27 June 2016 20:33 Post ID: #472341 - in reply to #471037
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Our new passports are going to be blue btw. Nicer than the colour we have now so that's a bonus...
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27 June 2016 20:38 Post ID: #472342 - in reply to #471037
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I dont know who Claire Broadley is but my advice to her is fucking stop moaning live with the result nomatter what the outcome or she can always fuck off out the country.
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27 June 2016 21:00 Post ID: #472344 - in reply to #472340
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billybobcat - 27/6/2016 20:33

Officemonkey - 27/6/2016 20:31

PieMag - 27/6/2016 19:50

Toon_NoMatterWot - 27/6/2016 14:00

Officemonkey - 27/6/2016 13:52

Her name is Vivienne and I've sent the proof to TNMW.


I can confirm ive seen the proof OL.


un-fucking-believable



Yep, this is what you have to do when you're on an overgrown child's list.


Why didn't you report him OM you could have got the coppers onto him.


I wouldn't get the police on to Old Leazes. He's spent enough of his time in jail.
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27 June 2016 21:02 Post ID: #472345 - in reply to #471037
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Seriously though. I'm not getting involved between a local doorman and a member of staff. That's for the manager to deal with and I live in the area. Not worth the hassle and I need to also be squeaky clean now if i want any chance of getting a job within law.
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27 June 2016 21:08 Post ID: #472347 - in reply to #471037
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But surely if you believed in the unfairness which it was all you had to do was either say something to the doorman or at least to the manager, and say if you don't do anything about it im getting the coppers.
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27 June 2016 21:19 Post ID: #472349 - in reply to #471037
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The manager has been made aware. I'm not getting myself involved with something that would no doubt end up me getting beaten up and risking my career when someone is there to deal with it.

I've also accused him in the past of having xenophobic views when having a drink with him one night. Told him I didn't wish to discuss the referendum with him. I ended up getting ejected. Ho hum.
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27 June 2016 21:33 Post ID: #472351 - in reply to #471037
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A few days ago a woman lost her life at the hands of a man shouting britain first as well as claiming she was a traitor that deserved to die.

Your reaction was far from the sort you are now urging from OM billy.


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27 June 2016 21:48 Post ID: #472353 - in reply to #471037
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How is that Piemag exactly what did i say apart from the bloke that killed that MP was a nutter.
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27 June 2016 22:17 Post ID: #472373 - in reply to #471037
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"Why didn't he stab and shoot that Asian woman that was with Jo Cox, surely a racist would sooner kill her than a white woman. "

"The thing is Cameron has used the death of Jo Cox to his advantage."

He was a radicalised loon who murdered a mother and a wife.
People should speak out against that, not point to the things you were pointing at.

So again,the reaction you seek from OM does not fit with your own in this particular case.
Please note,that's just my opinion.
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27 June 2016 22:28 Post ID: #472377 - in reply to #471037
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I cant see what your getting at mate what's what i have said got to do with what i said to OM. Cameron did use the death of that MP for his own agenda, and it was a reasonable thing to say regarding that nutter killing that MP when he could have killed that Asian woman if he was racist.
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27 June 2016 22:34 Post ID: #472380 - in reply to #471037
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I didn't ask you for proof OM, I said I didn't believe you.

I still don't.

You are the new king of the anti racists, despite being a racist yourself.

Priceless.

You fail to report the racist behaviour of this doorman, because it might affect your career, yet you castigate others for not "thinking of the children" and other such claptrap when they vote for what they perceive to be their own self interest.

It doesn't matter that you believe most leave voters would change their minds if they could vote again. I could easily claim the exact opposite and say it was the other way round. The actual vote, the one that counts, has been held. Don't pose as some kind of political expert. Stick to ignoring racism when it is right in front of you, but be sure to throw wild accusations over an internet forum.

You absolute and utter knacker.
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27 June 2016 22:37 Post ID: #472381 - in reply to #471037
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My sentiment is clearly outlined in my last couple of posts billy,if you want to see it you will.

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27 June 2016 22:44 Post ID: #472384 - in reply to #471037
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i take it it must be this your on about after reading your post again.

"He was a radicalised loon who murdered a mother and a wife.
People should speak out against that, not point to the things you were pointing at."

Yes he was a loon who murdered a mother and wife and i thought people did speak out about that but the fact remains Cameron did use the death of that woman for his own agenda.
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27 June 2016 23:10 Post ID: #472388 - in reply to #471037
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Believe what you want, OL. I've stated a few times that I care not what you think or what people of your ilk think.

If you think I'm going to get involved with a bust up over something that is under control by management then you are also sadly mistaken. Oh and it wasn't racism, more xenophobia tbh.

As for the proof. You said you'd like to speak to her and then insinuated that I'm lying. You wanted proof despite your wording, thought I didn't have any, you've received assurances and now look a little silly. You tried to get one up. It didn't work.

Please, take your own advice. It's not healthy for a man of your years.

Edited by Officemonkey 27/6/2016 23:15
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27 June 2016 23:55 Post ID: #472398 - in reply to #472384
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No billy that's not it mate.
You are entitled to make those statements.

Questioning a person for not reporting a race crime while you yourself question the clear motive behind a murder committed by a racist on a woman he described as a traitor does not make sense to me.

I don't get how you don't see your stance as anything but contradictory.

The same way you selectively stated that Cameron used her death for his own agenda,yet chose to ignore the claims from a poster contributing to our own private debate on this forum who asserted that remain would probably win as a result of her death after a poll showed they were ahead.

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28 June 2016 00:11 Post ID: #472402 - in reply to #471037
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I didn't question the nutters motive at the time it wasn't yet clear he was a racist Piemag at that time he killed that MP. Most people said at the time he was just a nutter and he is a nutter who later was found to be a racist. The fact remains most racists don't go out and kill people that's why people were saying he was a nutter and he is a nutter.
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28 June 2016 00:20 Post ID: #472403 - in reply to #472402
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Nee bother billy,we will just agree to disagree on that one.

It's a great place for open debate and that's the most important thing imo.

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28 June 2016 00:24 Post ID: #472404 - in reply to #471037
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28 June 2016 13:12 Post ID: #472415 - in reply to #471037
The stories and footage of racism are gathering pace now with it being of little doubt that it's a big problem on the back of this verdict. You just feel ashamed to have these sort of 'characters' as setting an example of the average Brit.

It's something that can easily be nipped in the bud on TV with a little bit of education as to what this all means but it just stinks of the fear factor bing allowed to clear it's own path.
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28 June 2016 13:14 Post ID: #472416 - in reply to #471037
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28 June 2016 14:08 Post ID: #472418 - in reply to #472415
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Racism has been underground since PC laws were introduced toony.

Think of the right wing mantra,"I'ts PC gone mad",used by hordes of english red necks pissed off that they could no longer openly insult people of different colours or nationalities,incidentally the same type that now complain about the little englander label.

Farage Gove and Boris exploited them to the full during the referendum but they were always there.

The media are trying to guilt trip decent people into accepting another referendum or some sort of watered down compromise to what they voted for,simple as that.




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28 June 2016 14:12 Post ID: #472419 - in reply to #472418
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Racism has been underground since PC laws were introduced toony.

Think of the right wing mantra,"I'ts PC gone mad",used by hordes of english red necks pissed off that they could no longer openly insult people of different colours or nationalities,incidentally the same type that now complain about the little englander label.

Farage Gove and Boris exploited them to the full during the referendum but they were always there.

The media are trying to guilt trip decent people into accepting another referendum or some sort of watered down compromise to what they voted for,simple as that.






Was going to add before that we're in for a hell of a lot more fallout and scaremongering in the coming weeks or until that article 50 button is pressed. Maybe that's the plan, for the 'not' doing it being looked at like it's the only option.
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28 June 2016 16:19 Post ID: #472420 - in reply to #471037
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Nigel Farage has made an absolute dick of himself again too today. Basically fucked any chance of a good deal should we leave. His arrogance and insults were petty and childish. Just like the the French ultra right wing bitch who supported him.

Flip side of the coin, the Scottish MEP was dignified and respectful.

Several more reports of racism and racist attacks too. Just need to look on the Channel 4 Facebook page. This Brexit seems to have given racists a platform to build on. Shame on anyone who voted Brexit as they knew this would happen.
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28 June 2016 16:28 Post ID: #472421 - in reply to #471037
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Shame on anyone who voted Brexit as they knew this would happen.

Go on then i wil take the bait.................................what an utter load of crap your last statement is. How can you clump 16 million people together and infer they would all be happy with racist behaviour? You cheeky twat, my parents voted out and they are certainly have no racist tendancies
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