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27 May 2016 20:21 Post ID: #471092 - in reply to #471037
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At least if we leave we can have a not so straight banana instead of the EU telling us we cant have them the fucking Nazis
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27 May 2016 20:35 Post ID: #471094 - in reply to #471037
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Its funny because not long ago Cameron was all for leaving now he wants to stay, i wonder how much he will make off the back of the UK staying in the EU. Cameron/Osbourne and the rest of the toffee nosed Paedophile cunts in government, and those on the opposition benches in support of staying are doing so because of what they might lose if the country decides to leave.

I hope the country decides to leave nomatter the cost because even if it is bad at the start it can only get better in time. They reckon that if the UK leave the EU could collapse maybe that's what's got the fucking Germans/French and others shitting themselves.

Edited by billybobcat 27/5/2016 20:43
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27 May 2016 20:54 Post ID: #471095 - in reply to #471037
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They're still miffed cos we kept the pound and didn't go with the euro as currency.
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27 May 2016 21:13 Post ID: #471096 - in reply to #471037
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Madness to leave in my opinion, economy wise more than anything else, all I can see is years of recession, plus Boris Johnson wants out, that's enough reason alone for staying in.
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27 May 2016 23:26 Post ID: #471097 - in reply to #471037
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Have we not had years of recession anyway
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28 May 2016 01:44 Post ID: #471099 - in reply to #471097
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mrtoon - 27/5/2016 23:26

Have we not had years of recession anyway


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28 May 2016 03:56 Post ID: #471100 - in reply to #471037
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And it will only get worse with prices rising.

If you want out, it's not some biblical heaven. People often point to Norway etc. They have to pay (still) and allow free movement (pretty much the same as what we do) but have zero say at the table.

Without wanting to sound like a cunt, there's a video with facts showing that more intelligent people will vote to stay. Don't shoot the messenger.
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28 May 2016 03:58 Post ID: #471101 - in reply to #471037
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I just personally hope that everyone who votes to leave moves to one of the many uninhabited islands around the world and tries to make it work.

Britain will vote remain. That's a given.
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28 May 2016 09:21 Post ID: #471105 - in reply to #471037
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If Rupert Murdoch want's the UK to remain, they will.
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28 May 2016 10:51 Post ID: #471107 - in reply to #471097
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mrtoon - 27/5/2016 23:26

Have we not had years of recession anyway


So have most countries on the planet.

If we had not been a member of a regulated market the impact could have been much worse.

Some argue that Greece and Ireland suffered because of their membership,but they simply did not stick to the rules.
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28 May 2016 14:06 Post ID: #471116 - in reply to #471101
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Officemonkey - 28/5/2016 03:58

I just personally hope that everyone who votes to leave moves to one of the many uninhabited islands around the world and tries to make it work.

Britain will vote remain. That's a given.


And using your ideology, if we do come out would people who voted to stay in perhaps attempt to move to say Greece or Estonia and argue hey can i have a house, benefits and first class medical treatment for nothing.
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28 May 2016 15:30 Post ID: #471120 - in reply to #471037
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I dont have a vote but when i see Johnson and Gove lining up in the no camp that would be enough for me to vote yes.
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28 May 2016 16:04 Post ID: #471121 - in reply to #471037
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Voting remain,the thought of johnson,gove,i.d.s. gaining even more power if we exit should scare the shit out of us.Their drawbridge mentality if they're elected next time round will shift these isles even further to the right than it already is.
The E.U. needs massive reform I agree,the way the Greeks were treat by the European banking elite was scandalous.I'm no lover of the Eurocrats but the thought of a tory/ ukip coalition come 2020 sounds a fkn terrifying prospect.Austerity,you ain't seen nothing yet!
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28 May 2016 22:40 Post ID: #471130 - in reply to #471037
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It would be worse with that fucker Corbyn in charge. Surely labour can muster up a better candidate than that fucking loon.
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29 May 2016 00:16 Post ID: #471134 - in reply to #471037
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Corbyn won't be the labour leader billy in 2020,be interesting though if it was him against johnson,would put the cat amongst the pigeons,little engerlang decides.Shades of trump.
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29 May 2016 00:20 Post ID: #471135 - in reply to #471037
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Honest mate i don't know how he got picked he is a right loon. It just shows the shitty choice the labour party has.
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29 May 2016 00:46 Post ID: #471137 - in reply to #471037
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Agreed but giving him a hard time earlier from tony fkn bliar does the Labour party no favours either,the party's in a mess,that cunt should be hung drawn & quartered.
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29 May 2016 01:50 Post ID: #471138 - in reply to #471037
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You two were spunkin' when Corbyn was elected. Maybe because OL told you to do so.
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29 May 2016 02:11 Post ID: #471139 - in reply to #471037
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Interesting comment,neppo or whoever you are.
So did you think ed milliband was electable & who did you vote for?
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29 May 2016 02:20 Post ID: #471140 - in reply to #471037
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Thought Corbyn was a breath of fresh air.You choose to have 2 user names,why?
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29 May 2016 02:30 Post ID: #471141 - in reply to #471037
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Eh? I've been a lurker for a while, always enjoyed reading the board.
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29 May 2016 03:04 Post ID: #471142 - in reply to #471037
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Ok,you're a lurker but somehow happen to bring O.L.into the conversation & accuse me of spunkin with him.I can smell a rat.Who did you vote for last time around?
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29 May 2016 08:59 Post ID: #471143 - in reply to #471100
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Officemonkey - 28/5/2016 03:56

And it will only get worse with prices rising.

If you want out, it's not some biblical heaven. People often point to Norway etc. They have to pay (still) and allow free movement (pretty much the same as what we do) but have zero say at the table.

Without wanting to sound like a cunt, there's a video with facts showing that more intelligent people will vote to stay. Don't shoot the messenger.


The only "people" who refer to ""Norway" in relation to the 5th biggest economy in the world potentially leaving an economic block that is in recession are those in the remain campaign.

There is no actual basis of fact that dictates prices will rise. Why? Because of tariffs on incoming goods? I'm sure the German car industry or French agricultural ministry will love tariffs on their goods in an inevitable reciprocation of myopia in that scenario. And that's what predicting price rises; wages (arguably going up); risks etc are - scenarios. No one can predict what will happen in the future cos it's precisely that - the future

Edited by Finn_the_Dog 29/5/2016 09:01
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29 May 2016 11:55 Post ID: #471147 - in reply to #471037
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Exactly finn how can people say prices will go up if they can predict the future any chance you can give me the Euro Millions numbers for next week please. Even if prices did go up if would be worth it to not be governed by those German and French cunts.

Edited by billybobcat 29/5/2016 12:04
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29 May 2016 12:02 Post ID: #471148 - in reply to #471138
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Neppos - 29/5/2016 01:50

You two were spunkin' when Corbyn was elected. Maybe because OL told you to do so.


I will admit i wanted Corbyn to win only because he was getting slated by the media at the time and partly because he didn't look like your typical politician with his dress sense, but my god he is a fucking loon. and i don't see what OL has to do with anything i don't know him from Adam and he hasn't posted on here for ages so if you think OL has the influence to make complete strangers side with him you're as big a loon as Corbyn.
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29 May 2016 12:16 Post ID: #471149 - in reply to #471037
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29 May 2016 19:11 Post ID: #471159 - in reply to #471037
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Indeed Billy! As well as the myth-slaying re trade (I mean - how did we cope for those 1000 odd pre-EU years?!) I like the end bit as well from Varoufaks. In other words "stay in - we need your bail outs"

Sorry bout the euro millions tho - I think you'll find it'll be won by Hans Neesundtozer of Stuttgart this week. Soz bud.
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29 May 2016 19:29 Post ID: #471162 - in reply to #471037
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01 June 2016 21:29 Post ID: #471257 - in reply to #471037
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I'm voting OUT and I hope everyone takes courage and does the same.

However shit it will be under the tories for the next however many years we at least have the opportunity to remove them, and make real change when we do so.

If the argument for staying in EU is that the tories will be even worse if we are outside it, then owrds fail me.

We don't need anyone to hold our hands, we can look after ourselves, and we'll make reciprocal agreements re trading. It's not like we'll be cast adrift either, people will still want to come here, we'll still be trading. If people make it hard for us to travel, trade, any of it then we will reciprocate. In short... it won't fucking happen.

Don't be afraid of the dark, vote OUT.
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01 June 2016 22:31 Post ID: #471258 - in reply to #471037
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Regardless of how the vote goes the best outcome for me is that the tory party rip themselves apart.
Would rather be voting on the state of our N.H.S,our schools,welfare,workers rights,austerity...
Oh fuck we just did that last year.
A bit like fatty at the helm.


Edited by Rytoon 1/6/2016 22:43
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01 June 2016 22:37 Post ID: #471259 - in reply to #471037
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Stanley or China O.L.?See you at the fringe.


Edited by Rytoon 1/6/2016 22:42
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02 June 2016 00:24 Post ID: #471260 - in reply to #471037
The vote rigging scandal, although out of the public domain, seems to be getting a bit of momentum as it's supposedly being investigated by at least a dozen police forces.

If proven and i'll be very surprised if it does due to the dark forces at work including those that are deleting stuff from the internet, then it will deem every policy made since the election in question, illegal.

This EU referendum could be a long way from being resolved in that case.
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02 June 2016 09:42 Post ID: #471265 - in reply to #471037
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Well I am definately in the out camp.I do not want to see my country turned into a non descript third world multi cultural European backwater state being governed from abroad.Get us out and get them borders closed.
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02 June 2016 11:34 Post ID: #471268 - in reply to #471265
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Sir Laz - 2/6/2016 09:42

Well I am definately in the out camp.I do not want to see my country turned into a non descript third world multi cultural European backwater state being governed from abroad.Get us out and get them borders closed.


Here Here, them fuzzy wuzzies, krauts and frogs dont like it up em
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02 June 2016 11:58 Post ID: #471270 - in reply to #471037
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I've already voted OUT via my postal vote as have all the family.
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02 June 2016 12:04 Post ID: #471271 - in reply to #471270
vin1892 - 2/6/2016 11:58

I've already voted OUT via my postal vote as have all the family.


Be a few posties missing vans over the next few weeks no doubt....
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02 June 2016 12:07 Post ID: #471272 - in reply to #471037
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I've rarely been so infuriated by any other political debate or felt so helpless in the face of the political and corporate machine that rules our lives.

Both sides are dominated (at least as the press has it) by Tories.

On one hand we have the 'remain' faction, led by such socially aware and dedicated 'men of the people' standing up for 'hard-working British families', Cameron amd Osborne. My arse. Just like the unelected EU and commentators such as the IMF they have a vested interest in serving their corporate masters, who, literally do not care whether the ordinary people of Europe have decent lives or not. So long as the European super-state serves to keep their economy balanced and in favour of their self-interested, arses-n-butter, lovely lifestyle.

On the other hand, we have the bare-faced personal ambition of Johnson. A man, who, if you have read his book 'The Churchill Factor', clearly believes he is the reincarnation of Churchill. His self-absorbed push to become prime minister at the expense of any attention to reason screams of One Chance for personal elevation to the office he, rather more Napolean-like, ambitiously yearns for. And his charming side-kick, the utterly vile Michael Gove. A political opportunist trying to oust Cameron after his demotion within the party. And their arguments? All economic ones are speculative. This has never been done before so who really knows? In truth, neither side. They are left with the immigration card. Yes, as an ordinary person I can see how having to compete for basic pay with 200 million fellow low paid workers across Europe is going to be a major disadvantage. So, leave and close the borders. Right. Except they're going to leave the Irish door open. And the Irish door is still open to millions of European workers. Guess what'll happen there. The self-seeking bastards on the 'Brexit' side will still be able to exploit ordinary people across Europe regardless if Britain are in or out of the EU.

And as for the voice of the people? Bloody silence. To be honest, I think the Labour Party realised the damage it did to its own support by backing senior Tories in the Scottish referendum. To their support they just looked like toadies supporting The Establishment of Cameron et al. It certainly kllled any Scottish support for Labour when it came to the General Election and confirmed to English supporters that Milliband did not have it to lead a walk in the park let alone the country.

I could go on but I'll save you that. This country is sick of politics and politicians. It needs to change. Political parties have to reshape to greater represent the populace. First past the post yields a continual flow of minority governments dominated by one faction within that party. I think in order to achieve the sort of bloody in fighting and eventual resolution that we need is for the country to leave the EU. There will follow a period of massive upheaval. Nobody knows how the multi-nationals will treat the UK after that. I'm guessing self-interest will keep global businesses determined to keep trading. However, I'm hoping for parties to break up, re-group according to clearly expressed philosophies and policies that actually allow people to make political choices which are meaningful to them.

I'll get me coat.
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02 June 2016 14:06 Post ID: #471276 - in reply to #471272
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Nice one HB
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02 June 2016 14:16 Post ID: #471277 - in reply to #471276
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02 June 2016 14:41 Post ID: #471279 - in reply to #471037
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Not sure which way to vote , I have been working in Europe since 1985 up to present day , the last 3 half years been off work sick now getting a disability payment from the Dutch government so not sure what will happen if we vote to leave . I was back home on the 26th until the 1st June when came back through Newcastle airport I got pulled over by this woman I thought it was the credit card lot but no it was from a government person wanted to know how long I was coming back to Holland answered a few questions some shite about who is leaving the country she called me a migrant was taken aback with that comment so said my flight was boarding and left
, don't know if any one has had this happen to them .
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