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09 September 2015 08:54 Post ID: #462816
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Well, finally broke the long outstanding England goal scoring record and just shy of 30 and the penalty taker to boot you can see him going on to get 60+ goals.

Not as majestic or as graceful as Charlton with that rocket shot of his, not as quick as Lineker with that goal poaching instinct, not as skillful as Greaves with those mazy skills nor had he the strength or heading ability of a Shearer.

However the lad has a colossal work rate, an intelligent football brain and doesn't suffer many long term injuries. He's pretty good at most things but not exceptional in any.

A record that could stand for a very long time.
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09 September 2015 09:55 Post ID: #462817 - in reply to #462816
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I don't realise he plays for England until it's penalty time or England are playing someone like Afghanistan.
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09 September 2015 10:07 Post ID: #462818 - in reply to #462816
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I always get the feeling with Rooney that he has a lot of natural ability but he is not prepared to put in the work to become better, I don't know about a football brain either Vin because he seems to want to play in every position if he focused on being a forward he would score a lot more, you don't score many from your own box.
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09 September 2015 10:49 Post ID: #462820 - in reply to #462816
I still remember the day I was told by a NUFC reserve player that Rooney was going to be breaking records in the future and this was when he would have been around 12 or 13.

It makes you think what would have happened if Shepherd hadn't bid for Rooney to spark Fergie buying him at least a year in advance or if he'd came here. He probably wouldn't have got near the national side for half the games he has.
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09 September 2015 11:21 Post ID: #462821 - in reply to #462816
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Good player and if Ferguson was still manager would have had more goals than he has now for manure.
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09 September 2015 11:53 Post ID: #462822 - in reply to #462818
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Bruce68 - 9/9/2015 10:07

I always get the feeling with Rooney that he has a lot of natural ability but he is not prepared to put in the work to become better, I don't know about a football brain either Vin because he seems to want to play in every position if he focused on being a forward he would score a lot more, you don't score many from your own box.


I think he plays all over the pitch because he gets frustrated with the players around him and he likes to be continually involved, whereas at centre forward the game can just pass you by. Ask Shola Ameobi.

Shelvey, Milner and Barclay all lack the pace to make a truly genuine international player. They wouldn't make the squad in Germany or Spain.



Edited by vin1892 9/9/2015 11:57
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09 September 2015 11:57 Post ID: #462823 - in reply to #462816
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I remember him as a kid bossing a game against someone for Everton , think it may have been Bolton, he was like Gascoigne in his pomp, 22 players on the pitch, but only one you were watching. Although he's won loads I've never seen a display like that since he moved to the mancs, Ferguson made him jack of all trades in my opinion and killed that youthful individuality. The media like to tell us how much he's improved since moving there, but much like Andy Cole, never saw it myself.
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09 September 2015 17:57 Post ID: #462833 - in reply to #462816
Rooney's a superbly gifted player but I dunno if he's burnt out or just plateaued but he's not what he was. I think the mistake with Rooney has been to play him as the out and out striker (he can do it, just like he can play midfield or defend set pieces very well) he simply has never the positional discipline to be a great centre forward. Watch him for Manchester United or England . He gets frustrated, he drops back, desperate to be involved in the play, giving his team no central striker to hit when possession is regained.

He's suffered at the hands of the English game in a way . On the continent he would always have been the classic No10 in a free role, free to be involved in the build up, link the play, run at players or push on as second striker (think Beardsley) this is something that's only really come into real popularity in the English game in the last few years . Now everyone's a bloody No10, Sterling, Chamberlain, Walcott, Barkley all would love that role for club and country.

How rare is it to see Rooney take his man on these days as opposed to Euro 2004 or at Everton? Manchester United needed him not to be the flair man (they had plenty of them in Giggs, Ronaldo and Scholes, etc) but the striker and because they dominated the possession in their pomp his desire to drop back wasn't the problem it is for England .

Next time you watch Rooney in a game take note of how he many times he'll have a shot on on his left and he'll actually take the time to shift it to his right often losing the ball or allowing the defender in in the process. His confidence in his own game is diminishing a little too as his natural fitness and pace decline with age.
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09 September 2015 17:57 Post ID: #462834 - in reply to #462816
Double post (on the new pc as well) . I must just be a fat handed twat.

Edited by keggy_keagal 9/9/2015 17:59
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09 September 2015 18:28 Post ID: #462835 - in reply to #462816
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I received an alert last night on my phone from Sky Sports to say Rooney had broken Sir Bobby Robson's record seconds after he scored !
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09 September 2015 20:25 Post ID: #462836 - in reply to #462816
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Hes still a mong faced cunt who talks like someone but his tongue out
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09 September 2015 20:27 Post ID: #462837 - in reply to #462816
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Saw him pay as a 15yr old for Everton against that shower down the road,my eldest was playing for the mackems at the time.
He was built like the proverbial shithouse even then,stood out as the best player on the pitch by a mile & scored 4 goals.
Think he peaked in his early 20's & had the potential to become a world class player for me.Would have loved us to sign him at the time,mediocre at best now.If Woy's going to use him,not that I give a fuck,he'd be best employed behind the main striker/s as what pace he did have has gone.
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09 September 2015 21:25 Post ID: #462838 - in reply to #462816
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He came on as a sub in a League Cuo match at SJP when he was about that age Rytoon and had an immediate impact with Everton winning in extra time. It was about this time in 2004 when we bid for him along with Man U. There was only going to be one winner in the race and it coincided with our manager being sacked.
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