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25 Years Ago Today
04 July 2015 13:17 Post ID: #460550
It was the day of the Germany semi final in the world cup and Gazza's tears. Seems like 5 minutes ago.

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04 July 2015 13:26 Post ID: #460551 - in reply to #460550
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Was the beginning of the end for football as the working class mans game, we now have a bastardised version where commerce is king and the fan is an inconvenience.
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04 July 2015 16:35 Post ID: #460552 - in reply to #460550
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Agree with that Bruce. I remember people used to snarl at you when you said you went to the match assuming you were a hooligan. The day after that match, those same people were offering their half baked opinions and you knew things had changed. I went to a Newcastle pre season friendly at Scarborough a couple of weeks later and there young lads there singing England songs. England!? What the fuck? The national team had always epitomised cockneys, racism and smashing up foreign towns to me. In fact before that World Cup there were more Newcastle fans following Scotland I reckon. The real season kicked off, attendances were up all over the country, there were women turning up ffs, but things had changed. It was like the whole thing had been power bleached down.
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04 July 2015 17:10 Post ID: #460554 - in reply to #460550
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Great post MM, you sum it up well, it went from a inconvenience to many, to being talked about in irreverent tones. I laugh when I listen to some people "talk" about the game, who don't have the an earthly idea on how it works. mention Plan B, and they think the Russians are invading. Like you I have spent enough time watching football at a local or team level to see the holes in performances and team selections, and see a way to alter that with a decent bench to choose from. And then use it, to try and alter the path of a game, and "you know", try and win it, not settle for what you have.

These people who became interested in "the game", after the world cup, and the subsequent exploitation to the masses, miss what the game is about.

And before you ask, I never even received a letter from SDA, saying I was unsuccessful in my interview for the managers job.

pack of cunts......
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04 July 2015 17:13 Post ID: #460555 - in reply to #460550
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There are plenty of people who i grew up with who hated football but suddenly became converts when it became "au current" i enjoyed going to away games and literally risking your life, shitty grounds with blocked toilets and herded like sheep by the police and viewed as scum by the masses, you felt part of something and got to know the other lads who went to games and there wasn't a woman in sight.
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04 July 2015 17:17 Post ID: #460556 - in reply to #460550
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Exactly Bruce, what I would give to go back to those innocent times, its way too sanitised for me, and you guess, has lost all of its passion.

Used to look forward to going to Boro, Mackems, Citeh, Manyoo, et al, as you know it had a bit of edge, and all added to the uncertainty of the day out.

Now........
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04 July 2015 19:53 Post ID: #460558 - in reply to #460550
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West Ham and Chelsea away was always tasty, but the grounds where i seen the most trouble was Leicester, Bristol City and Coventry.
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04 July 2015 20:07 Post ID: #460559 - in reply to #460550
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Leicester away I agree with, never got to Bristol, or Coventry...
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04 July 2015 20:54 Post ID: #460560 - in reply to #460550
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I remember it like yesterday. My lads were close to tears after the penalties, watching it with their England tops on. One was white and the other a pale blue. Was Umbro the shirt sponsor?
I'm not so sure about the changing of the game after the semi-final. Sky didn't turn up until 92 and were going nowhere until we arrived on the scene in 94. Then, imho it changed, certainly for me and my lads.
Following Newcastle to away games with 2 young lads in the late 80's was never a problem, and reasonably cheap. It was a couple of quid each for the lads and £4 for me. Happy days indeed.
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04 July 2015 22:31 Post ID: #460561 - in reply to #460550
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Sky only bought the rights to football after the increased interest after italia 90 Mac then we had euro 96 which cemented football as a game for the middle classes, we were no longer the enemy but the working classes needed to be priced out of the game. We now have a 'product' and customers who demand good mobile phone signals and like to wear replica tops while the grounds have become soulless.
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05 July 2015 18:31 Post ID: #460576 - in reply to #460550
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Yes Mac, Sky gave certainly been a massive catalyst for the change with their poxy morning programmes, giving airtime to the dicks outside of grounds, transfer deadline days, super Sundays and other such toss. It would have been tremendous if they had gone under when they were days away in the early 90s. Football might have just about hung on something close to what we knew. But that semi final was the beginning of the end for me. There was a huge shift in the overall attitude of Middle England towards the game in general. Not all of it bad it must be said.

Then sky picked up there might be some money in this new found interest and football is now going to hell in a handcart until it implodes under the weight of greed and we might get our game back.

Edited by ManxMag 5/7/2015 18:33
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05 July 2015 21:13 Post ID: #460584 - in reply to #460550
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It will happen at some point manx just might not be in my lifetime, it can not be sustained and when sky pull the plug the whole deck of cards will collapse. The goings on at FIFA show what football is all about and sadly UEFA and the FA are no better, i now go to my local teams games who are in division 1 in Ireland, the standard of football is not the greatest but the attitude of the players is spot on, the club also run summer camps for kids at a loss to the club but they are serving the community not themselves.
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