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Mayweather v Pacquiao
20 February 2015 23:39 Post ID: #452943
Looking forward to this one. Confirmed for May.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/31484837
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21 February 2015 00:07 Post ID: #452944 - in reply to #452943
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Mayweather easy win for me. Bigger an more skilful. Don't think it will live up to the hype at all
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21 February 2015 10:13 Post ID: #452953 - in reply to #452943
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Looking forward to this one, really can't call it but one i will be staying up to watch.
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21 February 2015 16:58 Post ID: #452966 - in reply to #452943
If I was betting I'd bet Mayweather wins on points or late stoppage. Both fighters have declined (it's a shame this didn't take place 3-4 yrs ago) Mayweather just a little but Pacquiao more so and Manny suffered a brutal knockout defeat to Marquez in their fourth fight that was more than enough to shorten anyone's career. Mayweather is simply one of the greatest defensive fighters in the history of the sport. Whereas Pacquiao is one of the most exciting fighters of this era. Can't wait .
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24 March 2015 16:27 Post ID: #455043 - in reply to #452943
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Anyone else think it's way overhyped? Sky obviously having to hype it right up and be a huge money maker for them. 5 years too late for me and can see it being a boring fight and can't see past Mayweather, he's on a different level. Just wish I had plenty spare cash to put on him @ 4/9
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24 March 2015 16:32 Post ID: #455045 - in reply to #455043
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Exactly. Mayweather has spent five years avoiding him, and now he's ready.

I'm bored with it already.
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24 March 2015 16:35 Post ID: #455047 - in reply to #455043
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Na I don't see why he would avoid him though. Mayweather is bigger, heavier, longer reach, so hard to hit and unbeaten having fought some top fighters. Pacquiao was beaten on points by Timothy Bradley and knocked out by Marquez. I just really think it will be a boring fight like majority of mayweathers fights as he's that elusive and just can't see him been beaten.

Look at Alvarez and Maidana, younger fighters with a lot more power than pacquiao couldn't hurt Mayweather.

Edited by nufc_carl88 24/3/2015 16:37
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24 March 2015 17:50 Post ID: #455057 - in reply to #455043
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this would have been massive 4-5 years ago, now it just feels like an end of career pay day for one and a career defing moment for another.
Much prefer the UFC . no fixed / rigged fights ,1 belt per weight and fighters prepared to fight all comers regardless of name, hype or purse.
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24 March 2015 19:12 Post ID: #455062 - in reply to #455043
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It's one of the biggest boxing matches of our generations.
Plenty to get excited about.
Mayweather arguably the best pound for pound fighter ever and arrogant. Versus a very good pound for pound fighter snd all round likeable guy.
It's like messi versus Ronaldo of the footballing world.
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24 March 2015 22:51 Post ID: #455082 - in reply to #455043
I'll watch it because I generally watch all the big fights but back in the day, we were spoiled.

With Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank and Micheal Watson in one weight alone, plus the likes of Steve Collins beating Eubank later on. Not to mention the other great fighters around our shores of Blighty.

As for Mayweather v Pac man. don't be surprised that Mayweather will see his first loss, bearing in mind he's a couple of years older.
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24 March 2015 22:55 Post ID: #455084 - in reply to #455043
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Dunno about that lad. Pretty Boy will play defensive and will win on points. Or possibly knockout if Pacman comes at him late on looking for the knockout.
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24 March 2015 23:17 Post ID: #455087 - in reply to #455084
Hugo45Viana - 24/3/2015 22:55

Dunno about that lad. Pretty Boy will play defensive and will win on points. Or possibly knockout if Pacman comes at him late on looking for the knockout.


Im not gonna pretend ive seen either fight much if at all but years ago I would have paid more attention as it was more interesting and had more people that could win 'on the night'.

Of the two, im not sure who has the better career fight list and who has been hiding from who but I just reckon that age may play a part in this.
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24 March 2015 23:28 Post ID: #455092 - in reply to #455043
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True. It's intriguing. Mayweather 47-0.
Had he fought Khan now it would have made an easy advertising campaign. AK-47.
Pacman has 4 or 5 defeats. 2 of them to Marquez I think. Who Mayweather has knocked out a few times.
On another note Hatton came close about 6 years back. My bro and I went to watch it. December 07 or 08. Better atmosphere than you'd hear at a footy match.
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25 March 2015 11:44 Post ID: #455111 - in reply to #455043
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I dont remember Hatton being that close Hugo, but I may be wrong since it was 6 years back
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25 March 2015 12:08 Post ID: #455113 - in reply to #455043
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Took him 9 rounds I think it was before getting spectacularly KOd so not close no. Hatton and Maidana are two all action fighters with power and they could hardly lay a glove on Mayweather. Best defensive fighter ever for me
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25 March 2015 18:01 Post ID: #455136 - in reply to #455043
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Hatton was tactically outclassed,mayweather just waited till he was punched out.

On a side note I watched some Nigel benn compilations the other night.he was a proper no steps back fighter.great to watch
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25 March 2015 18:07 Post ID: #455138 - in reply to #455043
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I could never stand Nigel Benn, and loved it when Chris Eubank showed him up.

Eubank was easily the best out of that lot, and a proper nice fella to boot.

Met him a few times in Brighton, always stops for a crack and is a thoroughly decent chap.
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25 March 2015 19:33 Post ID: #455143 - in reply to #455111
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The Love Slug - 25/3/2015 11:44

I dont remember Hatton being that close Hugo, but I may be wrong since it was 6 years back


I think Hatton was holding his own. Then come the forth or fifth round he got docked a point. That was he point when he chased mayweather. And he punched him out.
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25 March 2015 21:32 Post ID: #455150 - in reply to #455043
Nonsense . Hatton was systematically outclassed by Mayweather. Hatton was cut in the third then had the point docked in the 6th. He was dropped in the 10th by a left hook that he walked onto, got up on jelly legs then after a few punches his own corner threw the towel in. Don't know how much you know about boxing but they don't tend to do that if your in the fight. Hatton struggled to close the distance all night and when he did Mayweather shut him down.

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25 March 2015 22:19 Post ID: #455152 - in reply to #455043
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Hatton "holding his own", fucking classic that like Hugo.
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25 March 2015 22:29 Post ID: #455153 - in reply to #455043
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Again read the post.
"I think hatton was holding his own. Then come the forth or fifth round".
Hatton landed a good few hits in both first and second round. There was one hit that shook Mayweather. And he's rarely shook up. Once he chased it. He lost it.
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25 March 2015 22:38 Post ID: #455154 - in reply to #455043
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I have read the post again and can confirm you stated that Hatton was 'holding his own' and are therefore talking shite as per usual, stick to numbers Hugo you will be able to have a good wank when the NUFC financial report is published.
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25 March 2015 22:49 Post ID: #455155 - in reply to #455043
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Ah you can only take in one sentence at a time. Fair play.
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26 March 2015 00:26 Post ID: #455158 - in reply to #455043
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Hatton was never holding his own, and what was he doing in "The Forth"

No wonder he got beat he must have been pissed.

Mayweather beat him like a ginger stepchild you thick paddy cunt.

You know fuck all about boxing if you think Hatton took anything other than a comprehensive beating from Mayweather from first to last.

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26 March 2015 00:54 Post ID: #455159 - in reply to #455043
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I hated Eubank at the time but have grown to appreciate him and his skills over the years. Phenomenal fighter.

Benn was also a great, unlikeable, but a great. McLelland and Iran Barkley were great fights.

Watson was my favourite to this day and at the time. Hammered Benn. Hugely controversial loss to Eubank first time around and miles ahead when caught by a freak punch when on the verge of victory the second.

The best of three great fighters for me. I take nothing away from any of them.

Edited by Eaststand 26/3/2015 00:56
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26 March 2015 19:35 Post ID: #455222 - in reply to #455043
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Watson was the best fighter i have ever seen in the flesh he was a craftsman in the ring and had some bottle and very sad what happened to him. the Benn v McClellan fight was brilliant to watch and again sad that it had to end up with McLellan in hospital. I always had a soft spot for Lennox Lewis and i don't feel he gets the credit that he deserves Tyson at his peak paid millions to avoid fighting him and when they did meet Lewis hammered him (granted tyson was well past his best at that stage). I just can't get excited about boxing at the moment and i think we were a bit spoiled in the 80's and early 90's. I will watch the Mayweather fight on a dodgy stream but i wouldn't pay money to watch it.
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26 March 2015 20:12 Post ID: #455232 - in reply to #455043
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Mayweather is a cunt but he backs it up time and time again.Id love to see Pacquiao knock him out but i think it will go the distance and Mayweather will win on points.

I think Mayweather's hardest fight will be when he retires i dont think he will handle not having the limelight on him and i think he will go the same way as Tyson ending up skint.
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26 March 2015 22:02 Post ID: #455249 - in reply to #455043
Anyone who's read my posts over the yrs knows I'm a boxing nut. Here's my current take on it .

Floyd's training for the KO this time . Or at least that's the perception that seems to be coming out of his camp. He's had significant problems with his hands in recent years hence the numerous times he doesn't bear down on his shots (since possibly the Ortiz fight) and is happy to use his superb range judgement, defence and jabs. This may well be Mayweather's last bout (though he has another contracted as part of his Showtime deal) and he could well be foregoing some of his caution to attempt to dominate Pacquiao. He's using Zab Judah a former Mayweather opponent and former world champion(also a southy like Manny) as a key sparring partner in the build up.

As for Manny he's got his career back on track following a bullshit bad decision defeat to Tim Bradley and what I feel was a career shortening brutal knockout defeat to Marquez (from about 2:51 below).



Manny took 11 months off following that KO. He came back to outpoint Brandon Rios for the WBO welterweight title (a guy I think in previous yrs he would have stopped in 6) then avenged his Bradley defeat looking somewhat like the Pacquiao of legend. His last bout was against a woefully mismatched Chris Algieri who Manny knocked down 6 times before he outpointed him, again going the distance.

I've always felt that Manny's (who it seems like I'm down on but let me stress he has been one of the most thrilling offensive fighters I've had the pleasure to see) absolute peak coincided with rumours of p.e.d.'s and I'd say that and the jumps in weight classes (he started at Light Flyweight in about 1995 which is limited to 108 pounds and in 2010 he was fighting at light middleweight which is between 147 and 154) looks suspicious at best.

Added to that If you believe the Mayweather camp, a contract was set to be signed between Manny and Floyd scheduled for March 2010 but Pacquiao's reluctance to agree to random drug testing scuppered the deal.

I always pick Mayweather (my opinion is that he's the premier defensive fighter of the modern era) no matter who he faces and I always say on points. That may well be the case this time but I think he'll ask questions of Pacquiao early. The Pacquiao of 5 to 6 years ago would certainly be able to stand that test and ask some of his own. I just don't think Manny's the same fighter any-more for the multiple reasons stated above (the Marquez knockout on it's own was bad enough to change a fighter , even the circumstances of it raise questions in that what the hell was Manny doing walking onto that shot?) .

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26 March 2015 22:55 Post ID: #455253 - in reply to #455043
Canny read, esp that last comment keggy. I love boxing but haven't seen a "live" fight in 20 years due to crazy fight times over here and huge TV fees.
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01 May 2015 23:42 Post ID: #457524 - in reply to #452943
Canny weigh in that mind. 16,000 there.

It has the feel of 2 blokes giving too much respect for one another and thus providing a damp squib but sometimes these 'feelings' provide the best fights. Hopefully we get some decent links tomorrow night as it isn't to be missed.
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01 May 2015 23:47 Post ID: #457525 - in reply to #452943
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.. what time is it supposed to start ..

Edited by andyj1973 1/5/2015 23:48
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01 May 2015 23:48 Post ID: #457526 - in reply to #455249
Not Bob Johnson.
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keggy_keagal - 26/3/2015 22:02

Anyone who's read my posts over the yrs knows I'm a boxing nut. Here's my current take on it .

Floyd's training for the KO this time . Or at least that's the perception that seems to be coming out of his camp. He's had significant problems with his hands in recent years hence the numerous times he doesn't bear down on his shots (since possibly the Ortiz fight) and is happy to use his superb range judgement, defence and jabs. This may well be Mayweather's last bout (though he has another contracted as part of his Showtime deal) and he could well be foregoing some of his caution to attempt to dominate Pacquiao. He's using Zab Judah a former Mayweather opponent and former world champion(also a southy like Manny) as a key sparring partner in the build up.

As for Manny he's got his career back on track following a bullshit bad decision defeat to Tim Bradley and what I feel was a career shortening brutal knockout defeat to Marquez (from about 2:51 below).



Manny took 11 months off following that KO. He came back to outpoint Brandon Rios for the WBO welterweight title (a guy I think in previous yrs he would have stopped in 6) then avenged his Bradley defeat looking somewhat like the Pacquiao of legend. His last bout was against a woefully mismatched Chris Algieri who Manny knocked down 6 times before he outpointed him, again going the distance.

I've always felt that Manny's (who it seems like I'm down on but let me stress he has been one of the most thrilling offensive fighters I've had the pleasure to see) absolute peak coincided with rumours of p.e.d.'s and I'd say that and the jumps in weight classes (he started at Light Flyweight in about 1995 which is limited to 108 pounds and in 2010 he was fighting at light middleweight which is between 147 and 154) looks suspicious at best.

Added to that If you believe the Mayweather camp, a contract was set to be signed between Manny and Floyd scheduled for March 2010 but Pacquiao's reluctance to agree to random drug testing scuppered the deal.

I always pick Mayweather (my opinion is that he's the premier defensive fighter of the modern era) no matter who he faces and I always say on points. That may well be the case this time but I think he'll ask questions of Pacquiao early. The Pacquiao of 5 to 6 years ago would certainly be able to stand that test and ask some of his own. I just don't think Manny's the same fighter any-more for the multiple reasons stated above (the Marquez knockout on it's own was bad enough to change a fighter , even the circumstances of it raise questions in that what the hell was Manny doing walking onto that shot?) .


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What's up with his hands Keggy? if it's wear and tear arthritis I take my hat of to him, couldn't even get me feckin wellies on today due to the condition.
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01 May 2015 23:49 Post ID: #457527 - in reply to #457525
andyj1973 - 1/5/2015 23:47

.. what time is it supposed to start ..


Not sure. Probably at daft o clock. anywhere between 12 and 4.
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01 May 2015 23:51 Post ID: #457528 - in reply to #452943
Just checked. It's a set the alarm (4 o clock) job.
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02 May 2015 00:06 Post ID: #457529 - in reply to #452943
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.. ta .. if we win I'll try to stop up .. otherwise a drunken sleep sounds the best bet ..

Edited by andyj1973 2/5/2015 00:07
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02 May 2015 00:09 Post ID: #457530 - in reply to #452943
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sleep well sweet child of mine!
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02 May 2015 00:10 Post ID: #457531 - in reply to #452943
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.. probably ..
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02 May 2015 00:27 Post ID: #457532 - in reply to #457526
BlackBob - 1/5/2015 23:48

keggy_keagal - 26/3/2015 22:02

Anyone who's read my posts over the yrs knows I'm a boxing nut. Here's my current take on it .

Floyd's training for the KO this time . Or at least that's the perception that seems to be coming out of his camp. He's had significant problems with his hands in recent years hence the numerous times he doesn't bear down on his shots (since possibly the Ortiz fight) and is happy to use his superb range judgement, defence and jabs. This may well be Mayweather's last bout (though he has another contracted as part of his Showtime deal) and he could well be foregoing some of his caution to attempt to dominate Pacquiao. He's using Zab Judah a former Mayweather opponent and former world champion(also a southy like Manny) as a key sparring partner in the build up.

As for Manny he's got his career back on track following a bullshit bad decision defeat to Tim Bradley and what I feel was a career shortening brutal knockout defeat to Marquez (from about 2:51 below).



Manny took 11 months off following that KO. He came back to outpoint Brandon Rios for the WBO welterweight title (a guy I think in previous yrs he would have stopped in 6) then avenged his Bradley defeat looking somewhat like the Pacquiao of legend. His last bout was against a woefully mismatched Chris Algieri who Manny knocked down 6 times before he outpointed him, again going the distance.

I've always felt that Manny's (who it seems like I'm down on but let me stress he has been one of the most thrilling offensive fighters I've had the pleasure to see) absolute peak coincided with rumours of p.e.d.'s and I'd say that and the jumps in weight classes (he started at Light Flyweight in about 1995 which is limited to 108 pounds and in 2010 he was fighting at light middleweight which is between 147 and 154) looks suspicious at best.

Added to that If you believe the Mayweather camp, a contract was set to be signed between Manny and Floyd scheduled for March 2010 but Pacquiao's reluctance to agree to random drug testing scuppered the deal.

I always pick Mayweather (my opinion is that he's the premier defensive fighter of the modern era) no matter who he faces and I always say on points. That may well be the case this time but I think he'll ask questions of Pacquiao early. The Pacquiao of 5 to 6 years ago would certainly be able to stand that test and ask some of his own. I just don't think Manny's the same fighter any-more for the multiple reasons stated above (the Marquez knockout on it's own was bad enough to change a fighter , even the circumstances of it raise questions in that what the hell was Manny doing walking onto that shot?) .


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What's up with his hands Keggy? if it's wear and tear arthritis I take my hat of to him, couldn't even get me feckin wellies on today due to the condition.


Lots of fighters have hand problems . They used to be able to have novocaine shots in them pre fight so they wouldn't trouble them during a bout . This has now been outlawed as it was used as a masking agent for p.e.d.'s .

Mayweather's had problems with his hands since his amateur days, both his father and uncle also had similar problems in their careers. It's genetic and also as an impoverished child Floyd had malnutrition. They've deteriorated further in recent years but as he's only got a fight or two left he's not having the dubious boxers surgery whereby you take a piece of the pelvic bone and screw it onto the damaged hand to fuse it . It gives you hands like rocks but seems to make them worse in later life.

Pacquiao's got good solid hands and he likes to use a glove that's the old style Cleto Reyes horsehair type glove . This shifts away from the knuckle and makes the impact of his punches harder as the fight goes on .
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02 May 2015 18:51 Post ID: #457663 - in reply to #457530
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BlackBob - 2/5/2015 00:09

sleep well sweet child of mine!


.. I better take it easy early doors, its going to be a long night ..
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02 May 2015 19:41 Post ID: #457665 - in reply to #452943
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Any idea if there's an official start time, some bookies reckon as late as 5:30am, don't want to be getting up at 4 if that's the case?
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