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Andy Carroll - This saga just wont go away.
15 July 2012 19:50 Post ID: #290927 - in reply to #290885
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15 July 2012 19:59 Post ID: #290929 - in reply to #290885
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It's a No-Brainer, of course we take him back on loan, after all he is worth £35m..

Ask King Kenny..!!!
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15 July 2012 20:01 Post ID: #290930 - in reply to #290885
Plenty of talk about the wages being paid in full but the fee being anything from £10 - £15 million next Summer. No mention that we have that 25% off voucher.
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15 July 2012 20:02 Post ID: #290931 - in reply to #290885
I'm strangely happy at the brass giraffe neck of Ashley though. Even if it is a publicity stunt (which it probably isn't with him), he's a cheeky cunt and you can't knock his stubborn business sense. It will piss the scousers off, if nothing else.
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15 July 2012 20:10 Post ID: #290933 - in reply to #290885
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Wages paid in full? Is that by Liverpool? I'm not sure how these things work. Even if we pay his wages for the next five years at 70k per week, and then buy him back for anything less than £13.8m it means we'll effectively have had him for nothing. We can sell him again at the end of that. I can see why Ashley is probably having Derek fellate him to a frenzy at this development. It's like owning a gold mine provided someone like Daglish fancies one of your players.
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15 July 2012 20:13 Post ID: #290934 - in reply to #290933
OldLeazes - 15/7/2012 20:10

Wages paid in full? Is that by Liverpool? I'm not sure how these things work. Even if we pay his wages for the next five years at 70k per week, and then buy him back for anything less than £13.8m it means we'll effectively have had him for nothing. We can sell him again at the end of that. I can see why Ashley is probably having Derek fellate him to a frenzy at this development. It's like owning a gold mine provided someone like Daglish fancies one of your players.


Wages paid by us.

I don't truly believe that bit but for arguments sake we did a thread the other day on wage savings in the last 18 months and Alan Smith alone was getting £60k a week or close to.
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15 July 2012 20:20 Post ID: #290935 - in reply to #290885
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deff , yes from me , Carroll and cisse would run riot with any defence! speed of cisse and the brickwall of Carroll and if Ba wants to be involved all well and good but if he wants to go , So be it
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15 July 2012 20:21 Post ID: #290936 - in reply to #290885
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At the end of the day the sale of Andy Carroll enabled us to buy players that took us into the top 5. My concern is last season we played like Liverpool and they played like us. The return of Carroll might change the way we play and this might not be a good thing. Saying that, I'd take him on loan and he'd love to come back here. Give him the number 69 shirt, or something.
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15 July 2012 20:23 Post ID: #290938 - in reply to #290885
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and someone said (the cheating cunt tried to get a pen against us ) think if you watch it again , He could have buried the ball and Krull in the net , Honestly think he did not want to score against us and went for the pathetic dive ,, Wish someone could put the link of that attack up on here !
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15 July 2012 20:25 Post ID: #290940 - in reply to #290885
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4:4:2 with Cisse and Carroll up front could be excellent if done right. tell you what though I hope they don't take the no.9 shirt off Cisse. I would be really disapointed if they did.
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15 July 2012 20:26 Post ID: #290941 - in reply to #290885
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Still a no from me. The way i look at it.... Are we a better team after letting him go ? Yes. So why the fuck get him back.... We play a way better game since hes gone, better dressing room etc. He fitted in with the bartons, nolans etc. Its a new NUFC, a new dawn. Lets not move back...
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15 July 2012 20:28 Post ID: #290942 - in reply to #290885
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15 July 2012 20:28 Post ID: #290943 - in reply to #290885
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*Redemption* What a great word !
NOT on a years effing loan though.
Don't agree with training him up for their use, and to reinforce the scousers laughable superiority obsession
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15 July 2012 20:29 Post ID: #290944 - in reply to #290885
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i can see where your comin from , But he is Englands number 9 ??? how can we say no !!!
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15 July 2012 20:30 Post ID: #290945 - in reply to #290885
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if you look at that link about 5 seconds earlier , He could have smashed the ball in the net ,,,, but cheers anyway
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15 July 2012 20:31 Post ID: #290946 - in reply to #290942
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 15/7/2012 20:28

:::Andy Carrolls Swan Dive:::

Well said.
Never forget, never forgive
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15 July 2012 20:32 Post ID: #290947 - in reply to #290885
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pros:
offers us a different style of play - a plan b/c if you will
can fill the shola holding the ball up role when the ebony god retires


cons:
wiped his arse on the number 9 shirt
left us once, showed he has little loyalty to the club
that dive
is a bit of a twat off the pitch


ifs/buts etc:
could disrupt the dressing room
could make ba think he will have an even tougher time getting gametime as a striker

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15 July 2012 20:32 Post ID: #290948 - in reply to #290946
Roman history fan - 15/7/2012 20:31

Toon_NoMatterWot - 15/7/2012 20:28

:::Andy Carrolls Swan Dive:::

Well said.
Never forget, never forgive


I only put it up on request.

I actually think he didn't want to score at that point and panicked. later on after the abuse, he may have slotted it in, if given the chance.
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15 July 2012 20:34 Post ID: #290949 - in reply to #290885
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like i said , he could have buried it , If he had wanted to
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15 July 2012 20:36 Post ID: #290951 - in reply to #290949
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shearers boots - 15/7/2012 20:34

like i said , he could have buried it , If he had wanted to

Was that the case, or had he already started to go down when it dawned on him ?
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15 July 2012 20:40 Post ID: #290955 - in reply to #290885
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if you go back a couple of seconds earlier , he had a one on one with krull but tried to take it to the right and went down like a sack of shite, 9 times out of 10 in a toon top the keeper and the ball would have been in the net
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15 July 2012 20:41 Post ID: #290956 - in reply to #290947
rabit71 - 15/7/2012 20:32

pros:
offers us a different style of play - a plan b/c if you will
can fill the shola holding the ball up role when the ebony god retires


cons:
wiped his arse on the number 9 shirt
left us once, showed he has little loyalty to the club
that dive
is a bit of a twat off the pitch


ifs/buts etc:
could disrupt the dressing room
could make ba think he will have an even tougher time getting gametime as a striker



As ever Rabit, you provide us with much thought. I agree with all of that but in hindsight, maybe Carroll would have done things differently and if he does return, we're gonna have to give another chance whether we want to or not to keep the stability going.
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15 July 2012 20:48 Post ID: #290957 - in reply to #290885
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I think this is a smokescreen for someone else. It is not our style to broadcast to all and sundry who we want to sign.
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15 July 2012 20:50 Post ID: #290958 - in reply to #290941
deutchermag - 15/7/2012 20:26

Still a no from me. The way i look at it.... Are we a better team after letting him go ? Yes. So why the fuck get him back.... We play a way better game since hes gone, better dressing room etc. He fitted in with the bartons, nolans etc. Its a new NUFC, a new dawn. Lets not move back...


Agree with this, and LOL at 'he could have buried it but didnt want to'.
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15 July 2012 20:50 Post ID: #290959 - in reply to #290885
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Ashley will be laughing his cock off if this deal happens this is the sort of thing he lives for a good old fashioned bargain and it will give him and Derek something to laugh about over a few lager tops on their Friday night sessions down his local.
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15 July 2012 20:51 Post ID: #290960 - in reply to #290885
This from another Liverpool forum.


I think it would be a mistake to sell or loan to Newcastle as it only would strengthen them.

Personally I would give him another season as our squad is a little thin in attack anyway.

IF sell or buy then NOT to a rival for top 4, and that´s what Newcastle still could be.
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15 July 2012 21:10 Post ID: #290964 - in reply to #290885
The bid's been rejected anyway. Story over?
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15 July 2012 21:12 Post ID: #290965 - in reply to #290885
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Ah well !!!!
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15 July 2012 21:16 Post ID: #290966 - in reply to #290885
The story may not be finished yet.

As said before, Liverpool want a sale not a loan deal as it would be pointless them watching their player rebuild his confidence elsewhere.

If we bid £15 million then he's ours. Not sure if that is with the 25% off.
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15 July 2012 21:22 Post ID: #290968 - in reply to #290885
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Well loads on here have been saying " where has all the carroll money gone " if we buy him back for 15 million would they be happy ??? very much doubt it
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15 July 2012 21:30 Post ID: #290970 - in reply to #290966
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 15/7/2012 21:16

The story may not be finished yet.

As said before, Liverpool want a sale not a loan deal as it would be pointless them watching their player rebuild his confidence elsewhere.

If we bid £15 million then he's ours. Not sure if that is with the 25% off.

Maybe we can get BOGOF - Buy Carroll at £15 mill and get Enrique free ?
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15 July 2012 21:31 Post ID: #290971 - in reply to #290885
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There'd still be 20 million missing,never mind season ticket & 2 years tv money
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15 July 2012 21:31 Post ID: #290972 - in reply to #290964
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Toon_NoMatterWot - 15/7/2012 21:10

The bid's been rejected anyway. Story over?

Expect Spuds to offer £20m....and don't rule out Man Yoo
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15 July 2012 21:32 Post ID: #290973 - in reply to #290885
Not Bob Johnson.
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he's feck all flash and never will be.
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15 July 2012 21:35 Post ID: #290975 - in reply to #290885
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20 million missing ? Cisse cost 9 million
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15 July 2012 22:09 Post ID: #290983 - in reply to #290885
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BBC report the bid has been rebuffed
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15 July 2012 22:11 Post ID: #290984 - in reply to #290983
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15 July 2012 22:17 Post ID: #290987 - in reply to #290885
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I don't think it can be ruled out just yet tho.
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15 July 2012 22:19 Post ID: #290988 - in reply to #290987
BlasterBabette - 15/7/2012 22:17

I don't think it can be ruled out just yet tho.


This.


It was the firing shot of either a long drawn out saga or a smokescreen to lower the de jong price or fish out other bidders for AC, thus increasing our cut.

As ever in regards to NUFC, life is never boring.
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15 July 2012 22:27 Post ID: #290990 - in reply to #290885
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Ah ha, someone else thinks the same as me. It's got more twists than an Agatha Christie novel
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